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Update on MIL shunning

by BeautifulMind in

hello on this beautiful sunday!

just a quick little update to the post i made a few months ago about my mil shunning us.

quick recap: during a convo after she attended the rc and was going on and on about how powerful it was and how great the videos were, blah, blah, blah...i couldn't take it anymore and told her that's not our lives anymore and i didn't want to hear anymore about it and to please respect that and move on to something else to talk about.

BeautifulMind

Thanks everyone. No, it is not easy dealing with this but no one escapes this cult unscathed. But I'm not in it anymore and I refuse to let anyone still in control our lives.

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Update on MIL shunning

by BeautifulMind in

hello on this beautiful sunday!

just a quick little update to the post i made a few months ago about my mil shunning us.

quick recap: during a convo after she attended the rc and was going on and on about how powerful it was and how great the videos were, blah, blah, blah...i couldn't take it anymore and told her that's not our lives anymore and i didn't want to hear anymore about it and to please respect that and move on to something else to talk about.

BeautifulMind

Hello on this beautiful Sunday! Just a quick little update to the post I made a few months ago about my MIL shunning us. Quick recap: during a convo after she attended the RC and was going on and on about how powerful it was and how great the videos were, blah, blah, blah...I couldn't take it anymore and told her that's not our lives anymore and I didn't want to hear anymore about it and to please respect that and move on to something else to talk about. But of course she was relentless in getting it out of me why, so I finally told her we don't believe in Jehovah anymore nor do we believe or follow any JW teachings/practices and we are done pretending we do. (We had been side stepping the issue for over a year to spare her feelings). She said she would do what jgod wanted her to do and stop talking to us - including her young grandchildren. I asked if she was really ok with doing that and she said yes because she knew she was making jgod happy by not talking to us because we turned our back on jgod. We havent heard from her since.

Fast forward to a couple of days ago. She calls my husband to tell him about some family situation going on. He tells me it was a very quick call and at the end of the call she asked him to ask me to send her pictures of the boys. Lol, seriously? So she really thought she could indirectly ask to see the boys without even talking to me, after with much conviction just a few months ago told me she had no problem shunning her grandkids because jgod would be happy with her?. Nah, it don't work like that. The only way she will see her grandkids is through us, by talking to us like a normal person. Not dropping in and out of my babies lives when you miss them. I will not give you the satisfaction of seeing your grandkids through pictures while shunning us.

Even though she didn't have the balls to call/text me directly, I sent her a nice little text. "Hi. I hope you are doing well. (Husband) told me you asked me to send you pics of the boys. So I just wanted you to know, like I said in our last conversation, you are more than welcome to come see the family whenever you like, you know the door is always open! Love you."

So yeah, she tried that jw nonsense. Nope, not having it lol! Ok, on to football Sunday!! Have a good one.😀

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Article speaking against jw blood doctrine

by BeautifulMind in

came across this this morning.

if you can't open and you want to read it, copy and paste.. https://www.the-newshub.com/general/hlc-pvg-jehovahs-witness-death-squads-coerce-medical-suicide.

BeautifulMind

Came across this this morning. If you can't open and you want to read it, copy and paste.

https://www.the-newshub.com/general/hlc-pvg-jehovahs-witness-death-squads-coerce-medical-suicide

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2016 RC & my family

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i hope you are all well.

i haven't posted in a little while.

i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.

BeautifulMind

@freddo - thanks for the tip! 👍🏾 and to everyone, yes, we have a difficult road ahead. She is now going to tell the rest of the family I'm sure. One silver lining is both my brother in laws have known this since around October last year and have kept it to themselves and treated us no differently. But from the others, we expect to be fully shunned by them as well. We will stay strong tho.

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2016 RC & my family

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i hope you are all well.

i haven't posted in a little while.

i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.

BeautifulMind

@steve2 Who knows - she may yet surprise you and, after thinking it through, come down on the side of compassion and acknowledge you were not in any way shape or form trying to "win" her over to your view

That's what I kept trying to stress to her. I didn't want to change her mind on her religion. But she asked me what happened for me to change my mind so I was telling her. But yeah, we will see what happens from there.

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2016 RC & my family

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i hope you are all well.

i haven't posted in a little while.

i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.

BeautifulMind

Thanks everyone. It's easier for me to be so strong and speak out as all but 1 of my immediate family members are out and have been for years. I think it's also why I can offer my love to her and the rest of his jw family even if they unknowingly are rejecting ours.

@FayeDunaway, my husband and I have been having the discussion of telling her for about 6 months. But it's his mom and even though they aren't really close, it's still his mom. he was having a hard time with the fact that she might shun him, and I understand that. My own mother is deceased so she is the only mother figure I have, so it will suck if she does shun us. But we can't live for her. So lately I asked him if it came up would it be ok for me to tell her where we stand now and he was ready for it. He's actually quite relieved!

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2016 RC & my family

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i hope you are all well.

i haven't posted in a little while.

i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.

BeautifulMind

Hello everyone! I hope you are all well. I haven't posted in a little while. I've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org. But a recent event resulting from the 2016 RC prompted me to come here and post today.

I talk with my mother in law every Monday to catch up. So she calls like usual and the conversation is good for about 5 minutes. Then she starts to tell me how great the RC was this past weekend. She knows we haven't been to anything jw in a while, but not really why. She's been extremely bothered by my husband's beard tho and suspected something was up because of it. Anyway, occasionally she brings up jw stuff and I successfully change the subject. But this time was different. fresh off the RC indoctrination, she was extra pushy. I told her I was happy she enjoyed the RC and tried to move on a couple of times.

So of course she keeps trying, telling me about the theme of loyalty to J-God and powerful videos, blah, blah, ..... I finally told her I'm very happy she enjoyed it, but we decided it's not for us anymore, and that includes our little boys. I told her I'm not interested in what went on, so we can just talk about something else. She didn't let up, wanting to know what happened, etc.. geeze they have to know everything! I wasn't going to run from it this time tho. I finally just said to myself "f-it, here goes". I told her we took the time to examine the religion outside of what the org provided and we came to the conclusion we don't believe or agree with it anymore. Guess what the next words were out of her mouth? "So you are saying that you both disassociated yourselves from Jehovah's organization?" Huh?? I'm like is this my mother-in-law or a elder??? She switched into cult jw mode so fast. I told her "no, that's not what I'm saying, we just stopped attending and practicing. It's not a big deal to us. We don't belong to that org anymore so we don't subscribe to any of their rules and regulations. That is your terminology, not ours."

So of course the conversation took a bad turn from there, and it went on for over an hour with lots of jw junk being thrown at me. At one point she says "Im just telling you my opinion of why I think I have the truth like you are telling me your opinion on what your thinking is now." And I told her "yes, that's fine. But the difference is, I already know why you believe what you believe. I believed it for 37 years. So there is nothing you can tell me about jw that I don't already know, and it won't change anything. It's not going to work."

She kept asking me what did I read to make me feel like this, because she couldn't believe that I changed my mind. I told her it was my gut that lead me to investigate the religion, not what someone told me to read or look at. I didn't read to make my decision. The material just confirmed what I had been feeling for some time. I told her she could find the same information I did, and it's not from any apostate stuff. Of course she said "I don't need to do that because I have faith that I'm in the truth." And I told her "I have facts. And facts trumps faith to me every single time. There is nothing you or anyone can say or do for us to go back. This is a final decision."

She says "so you know what this means for me, right?" I said "no, tell me mom, what does it mean for you?" She proceeds to tell me that she loves us but has to put j-God first and she has a conscious decision she needs to make. So I asked her this question. "So you are going to tell me that because we changed our mind on believing what you believe, you are thinking about shunning your son, daughter-in-law and 2 grandchildren? And you honestly think that is ok and a rational thing to do?" There was a brief pause where I think she actually thought about that. But the indoctrination kicked back in and she again parroted what they are ordered to respond and said said her loyalty is to j-God first and she will make a conscious decision on that fact. So I just ended the call by telling her that we loved her very much and I hope this doesn't change our relationship. But based on how the conversation went, I know it will and I won't be surprised when it does.

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A Family Divided....Again

by BeautifulMind in

good morning everyone.

well, just as our family was finally all out of the org., getting back to being the family we once were, one of my family members recently went back in.

i won't give many details that will give away my identity.

BeautifulMind

I agree with you all. Make new friends, educate yourself about the org., start over. That's what I did, and life has been much better for me and my family.

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A Family Divided....Again

by BeautifulMind in

good morning everyone.

well, just as our family was finally all out of the org., getting back to being the family we once were, one of my family members recently went back in.

i won't give many details that will give away my identity.

BeautifulMind

Will do @alanv, thank you.

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A Family Divided....Again

by BeautifulMind in

good morning everyone.

well, just as our family was finally all out of the org., getting back to being the family we once were, one of my family members recently went back in.

i won't give many details that will give away my identity.

BeautifulMind

Good morning everyone. Well, just as our family was finally all out of the org., getting back to being the family we once were, one of my family members recently went back in. I won't give many details that will give away my identity. But it sucks, really bad. This family member didn't just casually go back to appease the spouse who is using the child as a pawn to return. Nooooo, this person went full out jw. Shunning my other df'd family members again, my df'd parent, oh yeah and shunning me too and I'm not even df'd or da'd. I mean if you have to go back in to save your family, It's your life. But to cut us off because your spouse (and "friends" in th cong. we grew up in) feels we are all "bad association" and pressure you to stop communicating with us because we don't believe the bs anymore is silly. As much as it stings, I'm not surprised they went back. They told me they were struggling with everyone's perception of them since they stopped attending meetings. I guess in the end they weren't strong enough to make that leap. I'm more surprised how they just were able to shun us again and when called out on it, say that Satan was using us to persecute them. Really?!! Smh....

Anyway, I know coming out of the org is hard and some do end up going back like they never left. That's the reality.