i created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.
i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.
jwd = starrynight9.
TallulahB checking in here...
I see that Gargamel mentioned it over on a different thread--did anyone else have time to take down the email address that Palimpsest posted? I didn't save it, unfortunately. PM (or email tallulahb4jwr@gmail) please if you have it...
Thanks!
i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
[email protected]. done! (and I actually spelled my name correctly. glory be.)
i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
Hey All--
Just checking in--I probably won't be super active--between school and work and just life in general, I have drastically pulled back from my ex-jw interactions. I've kept the lines open though, because I still have family in and since some of them talk to me, I know that I still occasionally need the outlet.
With that said, JWR was absolutely a vital part of my life for a few years. I have made some very great friends there IRL, and am forever grateful for all the good things it gave me. Nothing will ever replace the valuable resource it was to me.
I'm in a bit of limbo about my ex-JW status. I'm open with everyone I'm close to about my past and my family is aware that I'm a staunch non-believer. I also think it's important to be helpful to new ones who are escaping or people like me who take a while (a long while, in my case) to come to grips with their JW past. But on the other hand, it is too heart-wrenching to relive people's trauma. I get angry and sad and I don't feel that's it's always super constructive for my own good.
Speaking of anger--I know that JWR's end is a shock to people. I get that. But honestly, I think I probably would have taken the same route, knowing that the fallout wouldn't be ideal. One of the skills that ex-JW'ers have to work hard on developing is how to adapt--how to respond without being reactive--because for we've been hard-wired to treat unforeseen change as threatening. I do feel very sorry for the newbies who were just getting their bearings; hell, I feel sorry for me when my next inevitable rant arrives. But overall, this is a positive step for our admins and moderators. The anger people are feeling is akin to the envy of seeing people who first exited and seemed pretty stoked about it. I have never been so jealous in my life as I was as a kid knowing that other people were free to walk about the cabin, so to speak, while I was still strapped into my seat.
It's okay to respond with a bit of sorrow; reacting angrily is actually not very healthy.
Cheers to you all--I think I might set up another gmail account for folks and post it, a la Palimpsest, as I really am not sure what my participation level will be.
Best of luck to everyone on their journey!
Weird. There was an elder in my congo, Eldon Fredean (wife Merri Kay), who I believe is Fred's brother-- I seem to remember meeting him at some point as a kid. Eldon was probably one of my more favorite elders; just a sweet, circumspect and thoughtful guy. Merri Kay was a bit cranky, but I think that stemmed from her being a little too smart for her own britches. I can probably find out in a roundabout what Eldon is up to, if you are really interested, and possibly more if I dig for a bit.
its not like he had access to oxygen, light, fresh water or food.
what about the digestive jucies in the belly?.
please correct me if i'm wrong, but surely this just can't be possible?.
have others noticed that if you enter "jehovah's witnesses" into a google search that the first alternative it predicts is "jehovah's witnesses mentally diseased"?.
i use firefox and am in the uk, if that makes a difference.. does that mean that "jehovah's witnesses mentally diseased" is currently the most popular jw related search?
if so i wonder how many of those searches are by jehovah's witnesses prompted by media exposure of the issue?.
When Google does a search, it suggests items based on the things you've searched for before, and on your location and your unique identity. What you see when you type in JW's is not necessarily what I see, or what the average Dub sees either.
Knowing that, I do think we should all be working regularly to elevate the overall page rank position of our favorite apostate sites. One way this can be done is to link articles and sites that you frequent on your own blog or website.
i was officially diagnosed today.
started out a little over a week ago with pain in my back, and a week ago the rash appeared.
according to the dr, it seems i have been through the worst, and should clear in a week or so.
Glad to hear you won't be bearing the brunt of the pain. I had it as a kid (just a stressed out little JDub!), with blisters on my jaw and ear and shoulder. Completely awful, spent the summer in the house with the shades drawn (luckily not a single scar though!). The only good part was that I didn't have to go to meetings and if I remember correctly, I think I skipped the DC that year, too, so I guess the pain was worth it! It took years though for me to not have lingering nerve tingling on my ear, I still hold the phone on the other side of my head out of habit.
FYI- it's probably not so much of a bother with it being on the torso, but sun exposure can get the area riled up, even after most of the effects are gone. Sunscreen baby!
without specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
godspeed... er um, I mean turdspeed.
Haven't been in years and won't be attending- but best of luck and I can't wait to hear about it afterwards!
after carefully evaluating the my current life situation, i've come to the conclusion that returning to the hall will be best for me.
i simply just don't fit in with the rest of the world.
i don't drink, smoke, have sex, go to clubs, listen to worldly music, watch movies, or gamble.
Hey PP!
I hate to break it to you, but there's more to the outside world than drinking, smoking, having sex, going to clubs, gambling and what not... Can I make a suggestion? Give yourself the following challenges:
1. Try therapy, for just six months, so you have an objective outsider to talk to not. Not a JW (or even ex-JW's for that matter!), just someone else to be a sounding board and to help you talk about some of the very important issues that you brought up in your post (violent fantasies, etc.
2. Speak to a supervisor or a manager about what you're facing at work. Don't walk in with an accusatory tone, don't name names, just sit down and calmly ask your boss for clarification about policies related to swearing, sexual talk and the like. Be open about wanting some help and suggestions about how to improve the situation. Even in the average blue collar work place, those kind of behaviors are not acceptable and can create what is considered a hostile work environment. In the mean time, polish up your resume and start looking for other employment. Just getting out there and checking out different job prospects can be very helpful.
3. Volunteer! There is nothing better for getting out of your own head (and grumpy place!) than to help other people. Do you like animals? Check out the SPCA. Look up volunteer matching sites and find something that suits you. Something else you'll find is that generally, in a volunteer atmosphere, people are very respectful and keep the trash-talking and negativity out of the picture.
4. Enroll in at least at least one class. If you're in Philadelphia, the main community college there has some great courses and teachers and they have night classes, too.
You don't state what prompted you to leave the organization in the first place. Re-examine that.
I can't tell you to not go back. Go ahead and do it, but make sure you do the four things listed here, too. It'll give you a richer life experience all around and make you feel more rooted to life in general. Feel free to PM if you want to discuss more.
Good luck!
TB
this question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.
i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .
the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .
It all comes down to poop, in the most literal of senses. Even if there was just a localized flood, with animals from the immediate region, and Noah was able to wrangle ALL of those animals, and take care of each of their diets for the duration of the "flood", what did he do with the poop? Elephants, zebras, lions, monkeys, etc, etc.
I'm truly not trying to be dismissive or snarky here, but if you've ever had to care for animals, then you know you've had to clean their crap. Ever bother not picking up after a couple of dogs after just a couple of days? It's crap-tastically gross. And not properly disposing of poop will kill you- inhaling dust from mice shit can lead to lung infections that will drop you like a fly in just a couple of days.
So honestly, ask yourself, if Noah had little tiny windows up at the tippy-top of the ark, he couldn't exactly fling all of that animal crap up and out, could he? And even if he could, it would be a 24/7 job that would never be caught up with.
Oh, and then of course, there's the need to FEED all those animals to produce the poop in the firstplace. That's a boatload of hay (pun intended). Oh. And the climate control- penguins and polar bears need a different temperature to survive than a giraffe does. And I'm pretty sure there weren't air conditioners or swamp coolers around- so how was that handled? And how about making a vessel that could bear such a heavy load- with wood. Not steel. Wood. Above and beyond any standards currently in place for modern seagoing vessels, because he had A LOT to carry. But he did it, out of wood. With handmade tools. By hand. Did I mention the WOOD?
Then there's that whole thing of, if you're building an ark, how can you possibly have enough time to wrangle animals? Docile or not, how are you going to grab a passel of rhinos? How did he know what bugs to bring with him? How did he build an aviary inside the ark? The average modern zoo uses massive teams to build a series of different habitats, in SEPARATE housings. Think of the horror of the old Victorian zoos and that wouldn't even begin to be as bad as what some guy from antiquity could devise.
I'm sorry, but its not possible. Its not feasible. Its a story. Its a fable. Its a metaphor. Somebody's tent got rained out and the next thing you know.... there was a flood.
Sorry to go on like this, but the flood is one of my personal pet peeves. It just cheeses me when I think this was taught to me with a level of credence far above and beyond the stories of Greek and Roman mythology and other ancient fables. Nobody expected me to BELIEVE that a literal mouse took a thorn from the paw of a literal lion, and that they had a literal conversation with one another about it.
But the flood, oh yeah, that really happened.
