Steve....what an excellent post, you said much better what I wanted to say.
Scoob
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Steve....what an excellent post, you said much better what I wanted to say.
Scoob
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Thanks Xena! I couldn't do that to someone either, like I said, I always headed for the d/f one at the back of the hall to smile at them.....After them making all the effort, I wanted them to know that it was ok.
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
HS.....you might be right there on a few points there.......
But look at it this way, If I were to honestly approach most JWs and tell them exactly what I had typed here would they snort at me like you appear to be doing in your post, yes they wouldn't agree in what I am doing, but they would try to understand, of that I'm sure. Of course I could not live as a gay man in a relationship and expect to be a JW, and thats certainly not what I've done. I've made my own choice to stay away from the KH, and I'm not in a relationship with a man, through my own choice. And likewise it might be my choice in the future, If I were to conform, to go back to the KH. Who knows, but I do know exactly what the score is. And I can still hold my opinion.
But listen matey, don't call me an idiot. You haven't a clue what I've been through, or how I think. You are lucky that on this forum you probably have a 1000 people who will support you for the very fact that you are an ex-JW, and will back you up. But don't try to judge me or put me in a nice little "Misguided JW box"
Maybe your advice is given to "help" me see the point you're making, and I'll thank you for that.
But please don't call me stupid.
Scoob
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Apostates are loving, sweet, thoughtful and kind...
until they find out you don't agree with them, dare to disagree, or don't follow the party line.
See...it makes as much sense as what you typed.
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Gumby... Yes that was my thought exactly. If you can't see what point I was making then I feel sorry for you too. Just because you say its so, doesn't make it so.
Making your own choice about whats "right" was "exactly" my point.
Scoob
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
LoverofTruth ..No that can't be nice, and I don't know the full story either. Like many here I remember having a bastard of a headteacher that used to make us 9 witnesses in the school walk the whole length of the school hall after religious assembly before we could sit down (the whole school would be waiting) and the senior years would spit and trip us up and whisper Jobo, Jew, Jovo, etc etc every morning and carry it on in the school yard for most of my time at senior school. Did I hate them? No not really, I didn't like it, but mostly I stuck closer to my friends who didn't care whether I was JW.
I remember a "brother" in the congregation who was an elder when I was in my teens, and I was trying to get to meetings on my own, he made me feel like shit, always told me what I was doing wrong, critisised me, pulled me down, and always seemed to have his eye on me, discouraged me when what I needed was the opposite at the time. The other elders supported me yet I couldn't understand why he didn't. Soon after, as I was fading, he got disfellowshipped, was I glad? well yes in a way, I remember thinking he won't do that again to someone else........did it colour my view of d/f people? NO......else I wouldn't be here would I.
Before I go on.......do you see what I'm saying?
Scoob
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Very true Gumby
And who's to say that she is wrong and you are now right? or vice -versa. Its about choices we make. Its her choice to follow what you once taught her, as it is yours to leave what you once thought/believed. Don't you think?
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Being gay and out away from the brothers and sisters, and out of the truth doesn't stop me having an opinion, or make me less entitled to one than some of you straight ones out there who are out yourselves. I did get angry about a couple of peoples comments that bought this aspect into it. (Did you tell them you are an ex JW homosexual etc etc) that really has no bearing on this post, or what I was trying to say.
But then I thought, you are the type of people I will never understand, and don't really want to. When all is said and done, I can still post about what I'm thinking, without all that other crap.
I still stand by what I say and think
Scoob
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
no i didn't HS.
not a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
Not a new light, just a positive light.
Sometimes on here I worry that all JWs are painted with a bad brush when I know that not to be the case. Today I was looking after a JW patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button. Later her family came in, who I didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent. Real nice people, and I meet some right assholes all day.
Yesterday after work I was shopping and bumped into a sister by chance from my old cong, we stopped and had a chat, I remember her from when I was about 5 years old, and growing up, and she was still the same. Of course she encouraged me to come back to the meetings and gave me a memorial invite (I was going anyway) ...but she was and still is a lovely person.
Many here feel hurt by whatever has happened to them, and I don't want to detract from that either. But sometimes its good to keep a balance..... I'll make this statement, and then you can take from it what you want, but in my case its true...... I think *most* JWs are great bunch of people who have a special warmth about them.
You must remember people in the Org who were like this....?
Scoob