There are differences between a ban now & in the past. In the internet age, JW's only need a good VPN to access the publications. But I wonder how much passion there is to deal with the realities of living in a banned country. Mustering enthusiasm for a fight requires something worth fighting for. The Watchtower of 2017 is a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. The JW belief system has become insubstantial and wishy washy. Would a JW today risk jail to read the new simplified edition of the watchtower as they would for literature in past times? I'm not convinced they would.
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Russia banning JWs might not have the "persecution effect" this time
by truthseeker inrussia banning the organization might not have the same effect as the earlier ban did decades ago.. more and more people have access to the internet.
it only takes a few russian jws to start their google search for the first time to discover the truth about their religion.. questions might arise, such as "why is jehovah allowing this to happen?
consider too, the schism that happened when the romanian jws were cut off from brooklyn.
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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cobweb
Watchtower set this up excellently with the assembly videos last year. Russian police coming for a group of JWs gathered in the basement. The guy going to prison. And how here we are. Its like the GB knew.
The entire context of this: Trump & Putin, headlines about world war three. There is an awful lot for the JW mind to latch onto. People reported increased memorial attendance and I can see why.
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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That post must be pretty typical. They just can't see it, can they, the contradiction between this:
appalled at the outright denial of human rights and the freedoms that we all hold dear around the world
and this:
really want to see the country leaders, religious false prophets and all those who tried to stamp us out have to come to the realization that they were all wrong, and then.......destruction. Instant removal would be too good for them.
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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Do you air on the side of caution?
by compound complex inwell, that would be an airer.
it's all in how we hear the spoken word.
when a little boy, one fellow thought "world peace" was "whirled peas.
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Someone told me about a man who for years called them the brown volumes
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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cobweb
I would like to see the WBTS banned everywhere for the sake of innocent children and adults who know no better.
Personally I would rather my elderly parents stayed out of jail.
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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cobweb
So the Russian Headquarters are shut down and liquidated. But what about the individual kingdom halls? These were set up as separate legal entities. Do they get seized, liquidated and money taken?
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UC Berkeley orders cancellation of Ann Coulter speech
by freemindfade inuc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
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cobweb
When I lived in Brighton UK, the English Defence League (a far right organisation) used to travel there every year in order to march. This is because Brighton is a famously liberal town and there there was always a counter protest by the masses.
The upshot of this is that it used to cost Brighton half a million pounds for the additional policing required for the three or four hours that they were marching. Personally I used to resent the fact that a small number of marchers was costing the town so much money as there were better uses for it, particularly as most of these people were complete bastards.
Freedom of speech is all very well but sometimes there are practicalities to consider.
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Do you air on the side of caution?
by compound complex inwell, that would be an airer.
it's all in how we hear the spoken word.
when a little boy, one fellow thought "world peace" was "whirled peas.
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I have a guy on my twitter feed who sometimes likes to retweet mistakes like this.Typical examples are:
chester draws
colon (instead of cologne)
die of beaties
lack toast and tolerant
A quick check on twitter and here they are in context:
I just spray a few drops of his colon on my pillow
I eat way too much candy, I'm definitely going to die of beaties
I feel bad for people who are lack toast and tolerant bc they can't have milkshakes
There are lots more of these common mistakes but I forget them now.
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Eschatology based faith
by Steel inmy wife recently took a week off work to pioneer which really pissed me off because it kind of pissed away our summer holidays.
of course i asked my typical questions about " do you actually know what the new covenant is ?
or what is the point of all this time with the new understanding of the faithful slave.
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cobweb
Currently reading a book about the Apocalyptic movement. When you view apocalypses as a genre with a set format and ingredients such as dreams, visions of heaven, a judgement of good and bad etc and compare it with other apocalypses, like the book of Enoch, fourth Ezra, 2nd Baruch, Daniel too of course; compare it too to apocalypses of Babylonian and Persian origin, it is hard to view any of the book of Revelation as in any way unique or special. It just happened to be included in the bible.
The book of Revelation does not apply to our time. It was describing an imminent end just as Paul also expected an end in their lifetime. It has references to the Roman Empire. The mark of the Beast 666 or 616 as they think it is now, is a code number that identifies a specific Roman emperor. Just like Daniel wasn't referring to our time either. The King of the North and the King of the South - it is the Ptolemies of Egypt and the Seleucid's of Syria, literally to the North and South of Israel in the second century when Daniel was written. These biblical apocalypses are failed prophecy and they have not relevance for us.