I was talking to my cousin about the state of the world and how I thought it was taking a very dark turn. This cousin thinks as you do, and tried to tell me that if it upset me to believe this about the state of the world, then I should simply think differently about it and I would not feel upset. She was trying to be comforting but she was encouraging me into a delusion.
cobweb
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Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?
by Cassaruby in"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
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Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?
by Cassaruby in"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
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cobweb
I choose not to believe in fairies, except for metaphorical fairies. Like grimms fairy tales is a book I like.
So belief is just a matter of choice to you? Just a whim of feeling? It requires no underpinnings of evidence whatsoever. You could just so easily believe in Santa Claus as not or believe in elves and pixies or not.
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Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?
by Cassaruby in"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
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cobweb
Does it even matter if something is true or false when as humans we can't stop making meaning either way?
On that basis we might as well believe in fairies. But you have said that you do not and I do not. Any particular reason you have no faith in fairies?
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To "A Believer" and other JW's that lurk or participate.
by goingthruthemotions inyou think that coming to this site or other anti-jw sites and showing you support for the org is noble.
knowing how brainwashed you are makes me cringe and disgustes me and i am sure others here on the forum.
becasue your in a cult and can't see it.
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cobweb
You call this an anti JW board but it started out with many believing JWs. With discussion, open questioning, access to accurate information, patience and time, those who have a mind to listen, will naturally see the Watchtower teachings for lies. That is what happened naturally here, so that it has become an overwhelmingly ex-JW board. It would be a real shame if an aggressive attitude amongst the overwhelmingly ex-JWs community were to put off people coming here who are still at the tender stages in their journey - who are current believers right now, who are prickly, but are on this board which probably means that on a subconscious level, they know something is wrong, no matter what they say.
We should welcome current believing JWs and encourage them to discuss their beliefs in freedom and without personal attacks. They may come over as trollish, but allowances ought to be made - they have many misconceptions, biases etc, and come here with armor on and shield raised. I am sure that having a board full of apostates must intimidating. Being hostile to them is counterproductive. Venting at them for all of the hurt that the JW org has caused you is not fair or helpful. We were and are all victims to some extent - believing JWs just don't necessarily know it yet.
I have seen in the past, that people can start out here on this board a zealot with a defiant JW attitude, putting peoples backs up. But then, months later, after sticking around making judgmental posts etc, at some point, a change has occurred, and they start to recognize that they have been misguided. With that last post from A Believer, I think I see something similar happening to him. Such people ought to be made to feel welcome and encouraged to explore their beliefs and not driven away.
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HULU's - The Path
by babygirl30 inthis show is a.m.a.z.i.n.g!!!!.
...anyone that has been in a strict religion.
...anyone that has been in a high control cult or movement/organization.
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cobweb
yes i remember liking this show and the Scientology culty similarities though it seemed to be headed off in a supernatural direction at the end of season 1 which i thought was a shame. It takes away from the reality of it.
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Are donations still being asked for in the door to door ministry?
by ToesUp infor you guys and gals still in.
do you still ask for donations when placing magazines and books?
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cobweb
Interesting question. Those mags are so flimsy its hard to believe being asked to pay. Maybe for a book. Do they still offer large books door to door?
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Talking of 'Old Timers'.....Valis BigTex OnaCruise etc
by ScottyRex inwhat happened to these guys.
i remember chatting and sparring with these guys years ago.
i read on here that onacruise passed away (craig) that was a shame he was a good man, and his ex wife kate.
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cobweb
The bloke with the cat pic was good ???
Your not thinking of Fred Hall? He was a troll from around that time and used to refer to himself as a cat. He used to be nasty sometimes but people used to tolerate him. I can't remember if he had a cat avatar.
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Is it wrong to celebrate New Year?
by cobweb inlol, just kidding.. have a happy new year everyone!!!!.
https://youtu.be/b3kd1uplpxw.
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My wife and I are hooked on European series screening on SBS TV
by smiddy inwhether they be norwegian ,danish ,french or whatever , having sub-titles doesnt bother us as their usually is a mix of english dialogue as well.. some examples : tracked ,the tunnell ,the bridge ,dicte ,borgen ,just to name a few.another one i`m watching now about the middle east the name just escapes right now .. anybody else watching these shows ?.
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cobweb
Love all the Killing, bridge, borgan stuff. There was also an icelandic drama called Trapped on bbc4 about 6 months ago, set in a small fishing port. It got cut off by weather and there were murders etc. Very good.
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FYI: "Leah Remini's Anti-Scientology Documentary on A&E is scorching." Airs Tuesday the 29th, etc.
by AndersonsInfo inleah remini’s anti-scientology doc: former celeb wrangler admits how tom cruise was “surrounded” and isolated.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/11/23/leah-reminis-anti-scientology-doc-former-celeb-wrangler-admits-how-tom-cruise-was-surrounded-and-isolated.
"leah remini’s anti-scientology documentary on a&e is scorching.
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cobweb
I'm loving this show. Leah Remini is so passionate it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up sometimes, like when she talks about fighting for your family at the start of each episode. I've seen 6 episodes now including the q&a episode. I have heard awake witnesses using this show to get their jw partner to see the similarities and maybe wake them up too. Seems like a good idea as although the Scientologists take it to another level, the similarities are very much there. Information control, disfellowshipping, apostasy, believing they are doing something that will save the world etc.
It is interesting that so many high level people have left in the last 10 years or so. More than in the JWs. It used to seem like people were just too scared to speak up against Scientology and for good reason, but with so many books, films, and now this tv show coming out, it seems like they are becoming more vulnerable. Its hard to imagine that Scientology is going to do anything other than die a death after so much brutally negative publicity. Not necessarily from current members leaving but from noone joining.
While there is no similar 8 part Leah Remini tv show to deal with the JW organisation, there is an ever expanding ex-jw presence on the internet creating forums, youtube channels etc which will also be having a big effect, particularly on the young.
Gotta Love Leah Remini. Never heard of her as an actress but she is fearless, articulate and passionate. Its a powerful combination.