I personally discussed 1975 with Karl Klein and he said it was Fred Franz's baby and that it did much damage.
scotoma
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Proof of the 75' incident
by iamwhoiam inok, am i correct in saying that the fds never stated armegedon was coming in 75'?
however, they led everyone to believe it was coming in 75'?.
if the latter question is true, can you provide links to talks or articles that point to this?
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If you never have used the internet, would you have returned to the borg or stay in the organization?
by Iamallcool inif i have never used the internet, i would probably return to the borg by now.
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scotoma
I would have been disfellowshipped by now if it weren't for the internet. I have disagreed with more and more Watchtower teachings ever since 1971. If I couldn't talk to people on the internet about how I feel I would have talked too much in the congregation and would have been kicked out.
Every year since 1971 I had to add to my list of false teachings.
Currently I don't believe in a single thing that they teach other than common decency that all religions believe in.
I still go to a few meetings with my wife. I rationalize that she married me 40 years ago as a witness with certain expectation.
So I give her the dignity of having her husband sit next to her. My mind is elsewhere.
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How Will The Watchtower Handle Disclosure?
by metatron infor me, the disclosure of ufo's as being real is just matter of time.
it's not a matter of any mayan calendar or galactic alignment.
it's simply the eventual outcome of increasing and increasingly bold ufo observations.
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scotoma
My family and few neighbors had a UFO experience. I never believed in them. But now I have absolutely no doubt. I've given up explaining it because people who know me and know that I am a rational person believe our experience but are basically dumbfounded. What can you say? All you can do is speculate on their intentions. I made my report like thousands of other on MUFON.
I don't believe in alien landings, crashes, abductions, animal mutilation, or anal probes. Those kinds of "Alien" experiences don't fit into what you would expect of visitors from an advanced civilization.
Just like we don't want species to go extinct I think there are alien's that have an interest in preserving sentient species. I think we will finally see their power at the point that we are in the process of destroying ourselves with nuclear weapons.
They will give us the least amount of information possible just so that we can get through that cosmic crisis. It will result in a reorientation of how humanity needs to be governed.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-10-2012 WT Study (BETRAYAL)
by blondie inhow can we imitate the loyalty.
in our loyalty to our marriage.
your marriage mate.
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scotoma
I've got to believe that there are some clever Watchtower writers that are gaming the "old guys" to see how much crap they will sign off on.
There has to be a couple writers that know they are going to make an exit and so they want to leave some turds around for people to step in.
Otherwise how can you explain such grandiose (stupid) statements. Kind of a tail waggin the dog.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-10-2012 WT Study (BETRAYAL)
by blondie inhow can we imitate the loyalty.
in our loyalty to our marriage.
your marriage mate.
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scotoma
Comment by Watctower conductor at my wife's hall: Paragraph 10 and 11 about Peter
"Notice brothers there's no asterisk with a little note that says " If your opinion differs from what we have said please write us because we're interested in getting other opinions. Remember brothers the channel of communication flows one direction only - from Jehovah down through the faithful slave. Your job is to allign your thinking with the faithful slave."
At that point I told my wife I will be back to pick her up in a half hour.
I can't believe I gave the better part of 60 years of my life for that.
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Any conspiracy theories you're convinced has some truth to it?
by MC RubberMallet ini do.. 1) new world order.
2) weapons testing.
3) surveillance, espionage, and intelligence agencies.
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scotoma
Anything reported to an American audience with a British accent is believable.
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Any conspiracy theories you're convinced has some truth to it?
by MC RubberMallet ini do.. 1) new world order.
2) weapons testing.
3) surveillance, espionage, and intelligence agencies.
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scotoma
A further note on the Russian Apartment Bombings:
The Wikipedia article tries to show both sides of the issue implicating Putin and the FSB.
Here is an article that was written for GQ Magazine which was banned in Russia.
This is what happens in REAL conspiracies.
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Any conspiracy theories you're convinced has some truth to it?
by MC RubberMallet ini do.. 1) new world order.
2) weapons testing.
3) surveillance, espionage, and intelligence agencies.
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scotoma
The one conspiracy theory I believe:
The Russian FSB carried out the bombings of apartement complexes in 1999. The bombs that killed hundreds of low income tennants was blamed on the Chechens and was a pretense for starting a war to regain control of Chechnya.
Putin was Yeltsins prime minister at the time. A corruption investigation was closing in on Yeltsin and a plan was set up to have Yeltsin resign and Putin take over the presidency. The Chechen war was meant to distract people from this process and enhance the reputation of Putin so he could take over and assure Yeltsin that he would be immune from prosecution.
An incident of an attempted bombing of an apartment building in Ryazan clearly pointed to the FSB.
Read the whole section in Wikipedia on Russian Apartment Bombings
The reason you should read this is because this an example of the problem with actual conspiracies. There is always a high risk of something going wrong. People have to be killed to shut them up. There has to be an immediate pay-off because of a desperate situation. Huge conpiracies spanning generations with payoffs in the distant future are impossible.
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Any conspiracy theories you're convinced has some truth to it?
by MC RubberMallet ini do.. 1) new world order.
2) weapons testing.
3) surveillance, espionage, and intelligence agencies.
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scotoma
I don't believe in conspiracy theories. I do believe in conspiracies. They usually involve intrigue among small power centers within organizations. But their reach doesn't extend very far outside their organization.
Humans want to believe that someone is in control. No one is in control. No imaginary Jehovah or Satan are in control. Hell, people can't even control themselves. You would need a large organization that would use up very expensive human resources to have significant control. People talk. The larger the organization the less likely they can accomplish anything significant and remain anonymous.
The only conspiracy is the conspiracy of our DNA. Our DNA needs us to be greedy and reproduce.
That's why capitalism is rampant and beats back socialism. People would rather surrender their safety net for the extremely slim possibility that they can become obscenely wealthy.
Conspiracies require a symbiotic relationship with those it wants to exploit. The wealthy parasites need to keep their hosts alive and replicating.
I do believe in Soylent Green. Nature is digesting everything and converting it back to food.
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Racism, Justice and What Goes Unnoticed
by metatron ini have a well educated friend (who happens to be african - american) and i love our discussions because i can talk to her openly and honestly, with less guardedness than others.
on one hand, i feel i'm right - but on the other hand, i acknowledge that she may have a viewpoint that i haven't considered.. we argue about obama - she, that he may lose due to racism, i , that racism didn't prevent him from being elected.
as to 'justice for trayvon' being a reason for black on white violence, let me ask the following:.
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scotoma
A lot of white people adopt african american babies.
Obama is not a true progressive. He wasted all of his political capital and still got no respect.
The reason I would like to see Romney win is to end the stalemate. The racist Republicans aren't going to let Obama get anything done.
It would be better if Romney wins and the Democrats take back the house in 2014. You'll have two years while the money people open their wallets to create the illusion things have improved.
Also, Romney flip-flops like crazy. That's really a good thing. He knows what he needs to look like to get the republican nomination. He will be a big disappointment to Republicans and probably will reach out to the democrats once they get back control of both houses.