scotoma
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Will JW.ORG actually harm the WT Society Long Term ?
by flipper inmy son and i were discussing this yesterday over coffee.
since the wt society in previous years virtually demonized going on the internet at all for jw's - now wt leaders are doing a complete turn around or about face probably so as to " compete " or keep up with all the anti-jw websites that are out there to give the wt society point of view.. however- it very well may backfire on them as once people start doing google searches looking for jw.org it will bring up all the other websites dealing with any jw issues and in the privacy of their own homes out of curiosity i'm sure lots of jw's are going to want to check out some of these sites to see what all the " apostate " hoopla is all about.
i wonder how many jw's will do this and will it have an effect in opening more minds to other views ?
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Will JW.ORG actually harm the WT Society Long Term ?
by flipper inmy son and i were discussing this yesterday over coffee.
since the wt society in previous years virtually demonized going on the internet at all for jw's - now wt leaders are doing a complete turn around or about face probably so as to " compete " or keep up with all the anti-jw websites that are out there to give the wt society point of view.. however- it very well may backfire on them as once people start doing google searches looking for jw.org it will bring up all the other websites dealing with any jw issues and in the privacy of their own homes out of curiosity i'm sure lots of jw's are going to want to check out some of these sites to see what all the " apostate " hoopla is all about.
i wonder how many jw's will do this and will it have an effect in opening more minds to other views ?
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Will JW.ORG actually harm the WT Society Long Term ?
by flipper inmy son and i were discussing this yesterday over coffee.
since the wt society in previous years virtually demonized going on the internet at all for jw's - now wt leaders are doing a complete turn around or about face probably so as to " compete " or keep up with all the anti-jw websites that are out there to give the wt society point of view.. however- it very well may backfire on them as once people start doing google searches looking for jw.org it will bring up all the other websites dealing with any jw issues and in the privacy of their own homes out of curiosity i'm sure lots of jw's are going to want to check out some of these sites to see what all the " apostate " hoopla is all about.
i wonder how many jw's will do this and will it have an effect in opening more minds to other views ?
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scotoma
When Outlaw makes a post minus a cartoon you had better pay special attention.
I think he nailed it.
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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scotoma
DJS,
I don't know how I came up with DJF.
Got the first two letters right.
Phoenetically esss and effff ARE similar.
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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DJF:
I agree with you. I don't see the USA fading. If you look at things in a conventional way the USA can muddle along as they have for a thousand years.
People forget that the city of Rome fell but the Roman Empire continued in the east which was the most populous part of the Roman Empire.
The USA is synonymous with the network of nations that look to it as the world's leader. This is a deeply entrenched system that tugs on every country in the world.
The conventional wisdom is that the USA has no serious rivals from a cultural, military or economic standpoint. It is the Great Hegemon. It is the 500 pound gorilla in the living room. I don't question that. The USA sits a queen and declares it will never see mourning. The USA has a kingdom OVER the kings of the earth. It committs fornication with the elites all over the world. So now you see where I'm coming from and where I am going.
Ancient Babylon seemed invincible. The only way in was by boat through iron gates that went down deep enough into the Euphrates that an army would have to risk drowning if they tried to go under the gates. The Perisans got in by diverting the waters so their troops could wade into the city. Most of the people were celebrating in the center of the city. Babylon fell suddenly.
The area where your conventional wisdom falls flat is that you don't take into account that we live in a world where even though there are no economic rivals there are nuclear rivals - especially Russia. Jehovah's Witnesses also ignore this fact. They feel that the USA will be on the scene when Armageddon comes. That mistaken notion betrays that they are basically a religion started by Americans. They prefer to think of Babylon the Great as religion and create scenarios where Religion is destroyed but America continues on to persecute Christians as part of the UN.
Does the United States think Russia won't go nuclear at some point if they are pushed into a corner. The Spearhead Forces that were voted on by NATO as a protection for NATO countries is a farce. As Lavrov said - if Russia starts losing a conventional war they will go Nuclear. 1 Missile is more than an adequate counter force to any conventional force NATO may want to mobilize. The presumption is that Nuclear warfare is unthinkable and is MAD.
The only country in the world that has used Nuclear weapons did so when they faced huge losses to try to win a conventional war. That's when the sober minded - rational thinking Truman ordered two bombs to be dropped on Japan. So don't think that it CAN'T happen. It HAS!
The USA thinks terrorism is its enemy because they don't really have established boundaries. The USA worries about nuclear weapons ending up in the hands of terrorists. What if Putin decided it was in his interest to surreptitiously hand one of these bombs to terrorists. He could do that. The Russian mafia arms dealers would be glad to pick up the finders fee for that kind of transaction. But why even risk having terrorist do the dirty work. You can't trust terrorist to do the job. Russians are smart enough to conceal a small bomb big enough to wipe out lower Manhattan. In fact there is a good chance there are a few such bombs already available that are left over from the cold war. Or maybe there are enough spare parts laying around from the cold war. What's to prevent a container bearing ship to have one of these bombs as they sail up the East River right past lower Manhattan and The Watchtower's former headquarters. I'm not talking about a big city busting bomb which would wipe out a 20 mile radius. And I'm not suggestng a pathetic dirty bomb that would merely interfere with tourism. I'm talking about a bomb that would be within reach of "terrorists" so that it would give Russia plausible deniability. The bomb with no return address.
Have you looked at how few containers are scanned for such devices? There are a thousand ways to get a nuclear device into NYC. Think about people smuggling such a device through Mexico or even Canada. Do you think sanctions aimed at getting the oligarchs to assasainate Putin is a good thing?
At what point will a guy like Putin capitulate. The "conventional" policy debaters actually believe Putin will give up his idea of a Eurasian Union due to economic pressure. He doesn't seem to be afraid of NATO. Have they looked at a psychological profile of Putin? He thrives on adversity. He believes in doing unthinkable things. He does it fairly calmly. He does what he has to do. And when he finally blows up NYC he will be the first to decry terrorism and offer all kinds of help to the USA.
In case there are security people tracking this controversial type of scenario - I have no connections what-so-ever with anyone who would even be remotely connected to such a plan. And this is what makes it even more terrifying. Ordinary minds can conceive of such diabolical schemes. Ordinary people without any connection to power structures can imagine the likelihood of such a scenario. Do you think Putin doesn't have a few tricks up his sleeve?
It would be easier to bring a bomb into Manhattan then to figure out how to get a whole army into ancient Babylon.
Hmmm. Maybe there is an unseen motivation for JW's to get out of Brooklyn.
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Today's WT. article guilt trips my ex again!
by kneehighmiah ini know they're called exes for a reason, but my ex-gf and i had repaired our relationship which had been ruined due to my awakening.
she had stopped talking to me for months after the elders told her no to associate with anyone who disagrees with the "slave.
" of course since she has her own doubts and she still loves me, she eventually began talking to me again.
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Apognophos,
There is nothing wrong with a "fence sitter". Remember they always say the fence is on the devils property.
Fence sitting is a symptom of creativity and openness.
The Bible condemns sitting on the fence because it was written by fanatic religious conservatives.
Some people are looking for a quick answer even if it's cheap and wrong.
And there's nothing wrong with people who make quick decisions. It's just a matter of temperament.
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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Outlaw<
Charlie is the "tipper". At least he gave that waiter a 1000 dollar tip in Philadelphia.
Is that what you were referring to?
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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Metatron:
We don't agree on a lot but I think you have a good grasp of geopolitics.
The people who don't agree with your view are not capable of thinking out of the box.
They speak out of fear. They fear what the world would be like without the USA.
I am an extreme pessimist. Everyone is underestimating the seriousness of Putins goal.
Don't forget that Putin came to power by the FSB bombing their own people to justify beating up on the Chechens.
The bombing of the apartments in Moscow and other cities was blamed on the Chechens. It all worked. Yeltsin was granted imunity when Putin took over.
Everyone in Russia was focused on the Chechen war and forgot about the corruption of Yeltsin and his mobsters.
The criminals in Russia would love to see Putin go down and they WOULD kill him if they could do it without ending up with polonium in their tea.
The USA wants Putin out so they can play footsie with Medvedev. That's what the sanctions are really about.
I have to laugh when people in the west think that they are going to bring Putin down.
Mark my words. If they push Putin too hard a nuclear bomb is going to go off in NYC. It won't arrive on an ICBM. All he has to do is pass on small nuclear bomb off to a terrorist group. No return address.
A bomb in lower manhattan would drop the USA to it's financial knees. Europe will be shivering in their boots. Ukraine will capitualte when they see that the USA is preoccupied. Even Putin's oligarch enemies will be struck with terror because they will be next on his list. If the Muslim world gets too bold Putin will give a bomb to Iran to deliver to Mecca. The Shiites would love to chasten the Sunnis.
We live in a dangerous world. I would love to see a scenario where things proceed in a normal way. But it won't happen that way if you push the wrong people. Putin is the wrong person to push.
Met, as you see I forsee a messy meltdown of this unipolar world. Let's hope the resulting tribulation is cut short by the "mother ships" that have demonstrated the power to disable missiles. You know what I'm talking about.
Too bad Tom Clancy isn't around any more. He would probably have a thriller in print with the very intrigues I mention here.
Tom Clancy should have been working in the US state department.
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Voting and elections
by Powermetal4ever ini've been thinking about the fact that jws dont vote in elections.
the main reason for this, i guess is that they shall not be a part of this world and so on.
there was no election in the times of jesus, so yes i understand that it needs an intepretetion, but why is that intepreted that they shouldnt vote?
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If JW's voted they would vote conservative candidates like all other fundamentalists. Capital punishment. Anti-Gay legislation. Anti-abortion. Banning the teaching of evolution anti-gambling etc.
These issues would eclipse any of the other issues like anti-war.
Once you open the door to voting you open the door to running for political office.
Politics would divide the congregation.
I don't vote because I am outnumbered. Exercise in futility.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-31-2014 WT Study (FULL POTENTIAL)
by blondie inwt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm.
newly baptized brothers (not sisters) because the wts needs men to reach out.
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You came back with a good article to critique.
It is such a brazenly sexist article. The first paragraph was enough to make any modern woman throw it in the garbage.
The paragraph that got me was 18
"Sylvie, who has been serving
at Bethel in France for years, commented
that sisters can have a share in
commending brothers. She noted that
women may appreciate different details
or efforts that they observe. Thus their
“words of encouragement can complement
what experienced brothers say.”
The real truth is that brothers are really out to impress the sisters. Developing public speaking is rooted in the male drive to mate = just like learning to play the guitar and sing or roar about on a noisy Harley.
It's the male trying to seduce females. Brothers could care less about other brothers compliments. They will put the highest value on the attractive sister that compliments them.
1 Samuel 18:7
6 It happened as they were coming, when David returned from killing the Philistine, that the women came out of all the cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet King Saul, with tambourines, with joy and with musical instruments. 7 The women sang as they played, and said, "Saul has slain his thousands, And David his ten thousands." 8 Then Saul became very angry, for this saying displeased him; and he said, "They have ascribed to David ten thousands, but to me they have ascribed thousands. Now what more can he have but the kingdom?"…
Brothers learn early in their teens that if they give good talks they will have a shot at getting a "hot" sister. And like David if you get too many sisters admiring you the elders will find a way to cut you down to size.
