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  Anyone have the book Nabonidus and Belshazzar: A Study of the Closing Events of the Neo-Babylonian Empire Book by Raymond Philip Dougherty

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i need the book .

  nabonidus and belshazzar: a study of the closing events of the neo-babylonian empire.

  book by raymond philip dougherty.

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  I have the book.
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  WT Library being edited

  by berrygerry in

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  i thought that wt would have started doing this, but i have not noticed any posts before.. can anyone confirm (post is from fb)?.

  so i have been looking up these different articles to read for myself...one problem.the last time we got a disc was 2015 and i used my mil's disc to down load it to my computer.

  they did a update to it last year over the internet, the program updated it's self.

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  Came across this revision a little while ago (Note differences in bold)

  Wondered if anyone else had seen it

  Insight on the Scriptures - Vol 1. Chronology pg 453
  

  Under Babylonian Chronology it reads;

  A Babylonian clay tablet is helpful for connecting Babylonian chronology with Biblical chronology. This tablet contains the following astronomical information for the seventh year of Cambyses II son of Cyrus II: “Year 7, Tammuz, night of the 14th, 1 2⁄3 double hours [three hours and twenty minutes] after night came, a lunar eclipse; visible in its full course; it reached over the northern half disc [of the moon]. Tebet, night of the 14th, two and a half double hours [five hours] at night before morning [in the latter part of the night], the disc of the moon was eclipsed; the whole course visible; over the southern and northern part the eclipse reached.” (Inschriften von Cambyses, König von Babylon, by J. N. Strassmaier, Leipzig, 1890, No. 400, lines 45-48; Sternkunde und Sterndienst in Babel, by F. X. Kugler, Münster, 1907, Vol. I, pp. 70, 71) These two lunar eclipses can be identified with the lunar eclipses that were visible at Babylon on July 16, 523 B.C.E., and on January 10, 522 B.C.E. (Oppolzer’s Canon of Eclipses, translated by O. Gingerich, 1962, p. 335) Thus, this tablet establishes the seventh year of Cambyses II as beginning in the spring of 523 B.C.E. This is an astronomically confirmed date.
  

  Watchtower Library - 2014 CD reads;

  A Babylonian clay tablet is helpful for connecting Babylonian chronology with Biblical chronology. This tablet contains the following astronomical information for the seventh year of Cambyses II son of Cyrus II: “Year 7, Tammuz, night of the 14th, 1 2⁄3 double hours [three hours and twenty minutes] after night came, a lunar eclipse; visible in its full course; it reached over the northern half disc [of the moon]. Tebet, night of the 14th, two and a half double hours [five hours] at night before morning [in the latter part of the night], the disc of the moon was eclipsed; the whole course visible; over the southern and northern part the eclipse reached.” (Inschriften von Cambyses, König von Babylon, by J. N. Strassmaier, Leipzig, 1890, No. 400, lines 45-48; Sternkunde und Sterndienst in Babel, by F. X. Kugler, Münster, 1907, Vol. I, pp. 70, 71) These two lunar eclipses can evidently be identified with the lunar eclipses that were visible at Babylon on July 16, 523 B.C.E., and on January 10, 522 B.C.E. (Oppolzer’s Canon of Eclipses, translated by O. Gingerich, 1962, p. 335) Thus, this tablet points to the spring of 523 B.C.E. as the beginning of the seventh year of Cambyses II. This is an astronomically confirmed date.

  
  

  The original went from "can be identified" to "can evidently be identified", from "establishes" to "points to" and from an "astronomically confirmed date" to an omission.

  A slight of hand to discourage the reliance on "pagan" historical records for date setting that might also be used to establish the "astronomically confirmed date" for the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar's reign in VAT 4956?

  
  
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  Brother Bradford's comment at the April 29 ,2017 Watchtower Study

  by NCC-1701 in

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  hope this works .

  was listening to this on youtube today.

  check out brother bradford's comment about the picture of the governing body at about the 1:11:38 mark.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk_jnua-ua0.

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  When I heard Brother Bradford express an "opinion" that the Governing Body "deliberately posed" for the photo, implying that it may have been "fabricated", it seemed unusual that someone would give a somewhat less than glowing appraisal of an activity that the "Slave" was party to.
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  Brother Bradford's comment at the April 29 ,2017 Watchtower Study

  by NCC-1701 in

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  hope this works .

  was listening to this on youtube today.

  check out brother bradford's comment about the picture of the governing body at about the 1:11:38 mark.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk_jnua-ua0.

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  Hope this works

  Was listening to this on YouTube today. Check out Brother Bradford's comment about the picture of the Governing Body at about the 1:11:38 mark.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk_JnuA-uA0
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  West Coast North American Trip

  by konceptual99 in

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  i am planning a trip to the west coast from vancouver down to southern ca and would like to be able to discuss it with some of you guys who know that part of the world.

  i would like to do it in private so as not to give things away to anyone snooping so wondering on the best way of having a private group chat.

  facebook maybe?.

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  Never driven to SoCal from Vancouver, only flown. If you are driving and you have opportunity to go through the Oregon coast on your way I highly recommend it.
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  How long does it take to get a response from the branch office?

  by Homer notsimpson in

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  does any one have any experience with writing to the branch office?

  i know they're busy, but while reading through the shepherd textbook, it says to write to them quite a few times.

  so if a body of elders write to the branch office, whats the usual wait time for a response?

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  At the urging of a Witness friend, I submitted a question to Brooklyn about their use Justus Lipsius' illustration of the crux simplex. I sent it in Late February last year. I received an interesting response.

  I think it was about 10 or 11 weeks later that 2 witnesses with whom I had earlier spoken to on separate occasions (neither of which were the witness who encouraged me to write the letter) arrived at my door to ask me some questions. Neither gave any indication that the branch had given them a response to give me and neither gave any indication that they knew of the contents of my query. ( My letter was sent to ask if they could provide any documentation from Lipsius' writings to indicate his belief that the crux simplex was indeed the instrument used in Christ's death). I didn't think of it at the time I wrote it, but they may have wanted to see if I had plans to publish or post their response in some way.

  I sent a message to my Witness friend, telling him about the non-answer I received and his response was; "it was nice that 2 brothers came by".
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  My strongest reason not to take anything especially in the new testament serious is found in JW grey bible

  by Consciousguy in

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  guys i need a rebuttal in this.

  cos this is what i plan to tell the elders when they come to me which i find inevitable.

  due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. all the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain yhwh.

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  It's a perfectly acceptable objection to say that if something as important as the Tetragrammaton was removed from subsequent copies of the NT without any hint of any written objections to this heresy in any ancient documents, then it is impossible to know what else may have been omitted from or added to these extant manuscripts.

  If they can argue that the Tetragrammaton was in the original writings of the NT and was removed without documented evidence, then we could argue that the spurious trinitarian text of 1 John 5:7b in the KJV, which they say was not included in the earliest manuscript copies and added much later (which is true), was indeed included in the original NT, removed at some point from copies and reinstated later without documented evidence of its inclusion in the originals. If they apply a consistent standard to both premises, they can't object to the inclusion of 1 John in the original text.
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  We can now donate by credit card in canada on jw.org

  by hoser in

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  what a fine privelege to support jehovah with our valuable things.

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  At the Christian Life meeting, there was a blurb in the itinerary book for the "initial visit" to mention the "donation arrangement" (I think that was how it was worded). In the ladies role play, the "Witness" mentioned how the world wide work is funded solely by volunteer donations and informed the "householder" that she could make a donation too. The "householder" said she had no cash but was told a donation could me made through JW.org
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  Omg New Borg Kingdumb Song, they went all Lion King theme Lol

  by MrsR-Awaken in

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  the borg is turning into a disney music making machine check out their new kingdumb song (caution it might make your ears bleed).

  https://youtu.be/goj1vbvqvhq.

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  To whom is the praise directed?
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  why did the sacrafice have to be so BRUTAL

  by Tater-T in

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  why did the sacrifice have to be so brutal... i mean what value does that add to the equation of justice.couldn't he jesus have came down and just been slaughtered like a regular sacrifice without the brutal torture.why is justice served by brutalityanyone anyone bueller... lolnow you know i don't like to type for hours but this is always bothered me

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  To Tater-T

  I see it as more of a demonstration than a drama.

  The whole episode is ugly, disturbing and offensive. But what is most disturbing to me about it is that I'm not certain that I wouldn't do something like that given certain circumstances.

  Being aware of this, I believe I have received much mercy.

  Thanks Tater-T

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