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  Will Don Cameron have to write a new book?

  by tornapart in

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  in light of the 'new light' recently about the fds not being inspected until later (and not in 1919) does this mean don cameron will have to rewrite his 'captives of a concept'?

  as most of his book is debunking this 'inspection of 1919'.

  any thoughts?.

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  Cameron_Don

  The book doesn’t need to be revised as far as the identity of the "faithful and discreet slave" Is concerned. Chapters 6 and 11 help to show in actual practice, the various terms that have been used for "God’s organization" (including "the faithful and discreet slave") refer to "the men who are hidden behind those terms" – the men of the Governing Body. Or as Ray Franz expressed it 30 years ago: ‘\"They and they alone are ‘the organization.’"
  
  Or as the men of the Governing Body have apparently finally figured out: "They, and they alone, are "the faithful and discreet slave."
  
  As far as upgrading the book, we’ll have to wait and see just how the Governing Body tries to bail themselves out of their "old light" into their "new light."
  
  One thing seems certain: As "Captives of a Concept" points out, they are not going to use a DIMMER switch the ‘gradual’ and ‘progressive’ way they interpret Proverbs 4:18. They are going to use a simple ON/OFF switch that turns their "old light" OFF and their "new light" ON.
  
  I’m looking forward to seeing how they do it.

  Don Cameron
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  "Captives of a Concept" and the Governing Body’s New Light

  by Cameron_Don in

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  while waiting for this "new light " about the "faithful and discreet slave"to officially come out, "captives of a concept" already explained that in actual practice, the various terms that have been used to refer to "gods organization" (including "the faithful and discreet slave") refer in fact to just "the men who have been hidden behind those terms" - the men of the governing body.

  see chapters 6 and 11. raymond franz figured this out long before the governing body just did.

  in his "crisis of conscience" he said.... "whether the governing body members acknowledge it or whether they prefer not to think about it, the fact remains that in the crucial aspects of the authority and teachings they, and they alone, are the organization.

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  While waiting for this "new light " about the "faithful and discreet slave"to officially come out, "Captives of a Concept" already explained that in actual practice, the various terms that have been used to refer to "God’s organization" (including "the faithful and discreet slave") refer in fact to just "the men who have been hidden behind those terms" - the men of the Governing Body. – See Chapters 6 and 11

  Raymond Franz figured this out long before the Governing Body just did. In his "Crisis of Conscience" he said…

  "Whether the Governing Body members acknowledge it or whether they prefer not to think about it, the fact remains that in the crucial aspects of the authority and teachings THEY, AND THEY ALONE, ARE THE ORGANIZATION." Or, "They and they alone are ‘the faithful and discreet slave.’"

  Apparently these men have finally been "thinking about it’ and now agree with what Ray Franz said almost 30 years ago. They also now agree with what "Captives of a Concept" started saying 8 years ago.

  If what we are hearing is true, these men of the Governing Body will no longer be hidden behind that "slave." From now on they won’t just REPRESENT that "slave." They, and they alone, ARE that "slave" – at least unless or until some more "new light" gets turned on.

  This new understudying may actually help some Witnesses begin to realize that they have simply been following these men all along, rather than the "faithful and discreet slave" that Jesus was referring to in Matthew 24:45.

  It will be interesting to see how the Governing Body handles this matter with all of its consequences.

  Don Cameron
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  How Many Stars Are There?

  by Cameron_Don in

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  Cameron_Don

  I should have used Chrome...

  I have heard that there are more stars in the Universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches in the world. That's an awful lot of stars! Does the Bible say somewhere that Jehovah calls each one of them by name - or something like that?

  Don
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  How Many Stars Are There?

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  Lost Topic - What Happened?

  by Cameron_Don in

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  the topic : "applying chapter 21 (captives of a concept)" has been removed?

  did i do something wrong?.

  don cameron.

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  Cameron_Don

  Lamallcool.

  I found it by following what you said.

  But why doesn't the topic show up on page 6138 like it did until today?

  Don
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  Lost Topic - What Happened?

  by Cameron_Don in

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  the topic : "applying chapter 21 (captives of a concept)" has been removed?

  did i do something wrong?.

  don cameron.

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  Cameron_Don

  Hmmmm... I still cannot find it lislted on page 6138 - or any other page.

  I did find on the URL you gave me. But where did that address come from?

  It's like I just entered the twilight zone.

  Don

  P.S. I'm using Google Chrome
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  Lost Topic - What Happened?

  by Cameron_Don in

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  the topic : "applying chapter 21 (captives of a concept)" has been removed?

  did i do something wrong?.

  don cameron.

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  Cameron_Don

  The topic : "Applying Chapter 21 (Captives of a Concept)" has been removed? Did I do something wrong?

  Don Cameron
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  Applying Chapter 21 (“Captives of a Concept”)

  by Cameron_Don in

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  note: i found the following experience where someone (rob) applied captives of a concepts chapter 21 when trying to help his father-in-law see some of the interesting he learned from the proclaimers book.. __________________________________________.

  this past wednesday night, the 6th.

  i met with my father-in-law.

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  Cameron_Don

  Hi Ros,

  I still love your thought that "You cannot change someone's mind by proving that they are wrong."

  Don
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  Applying Chapter 21 (“Captives of a Concept”)

  by Cameron_Don in

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  note: i found the following experience where someone (rob) applied captives of a concepts chapter 21 when trying to help his father-in-law see some of the interesting he learned from the proclaimers book.. __________________________________________.

  this past wednesday night, the 6th.

  i met with my father-in-law.

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  Cameron_Don

  Hello Kepler,

  You said, “In one recent topic, I had asked specifically how it was possible to witness an invisible event: How do you know when it occurred?”

  Here is a comment from my book about how the Governing Body has changed the meaning of “the end of the Gentile Times” from referring to the literal end of their rule in 1914 to their rule being invisibly interrupted in 1914 by an invisible Jesus Christ who was invisibly present as he was being invisibly enthroned to begin his invisible rule from the invisible heavens.”

  How do Jehovah’s Witnesses know that all these invisible events occurred in 1914? They have no problem accepting this explanation because it comes from what they believe to be God’s visible organization. “

  As long as Witnesses believe the Society is God’s organization they don’t need any proof of the above invisible events.

  Don
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  Applying Chapter 21 (“Captives of a Concept”)

  by Cameron_Don in

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  note: i found the following experience where someone (rob) applied captives of a concepts chapter 21 when trying to help his father-in-law see some of the interesting he learned from the proclaimers book.. __________________________________________.

  this past wednesday night, the 6th.

  i met with my father-in-law.

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  Cameron_Don

  Thanks for all the nice comments about the book.

  It is hoped that it is iable to eventually reach those Witnesses and their families who are struggling with what they see going on but just haven't been able to put it together in order to see what it all means, which is simply that the Watchtower Soiciety has never been God's organization.

  Don