Blacks all in a huff but Hispanics haven't gotten our token Princess yet. I can see it now, The Princess and the ICE Agent.
Get over yourselves people.
how many christians?.
how many jehovah's witnesses?.
what do you all think of it?.
Blacks all in a huff but Hispanics haven't gotten our token Princess yet. I can see it now, The Princess and the ICE Agent.
Get over yourselves people.
this isn't meant to be a shit stirring topic, just a thought or two, a memory really, from my jw days.
because i know i have more experience then most on debating the veracity of the trinity..... there are two camps, people of faith, and people of math.. people of faith will always be more convinced of the trinity every day, because for the most part, the teachers of the trinity are very up front about the fact that it is a mystery.. so the more you point out how illogical it is, the more a mystery the trinity becomes, and thus, it also becomes more real.
awesome!
Geez, I realy don't care.
Are you talking to me? I am not insisting on you to believe anything. I am just showing what I found to be a good explanation, that worked for me, and reminiscing on my own spiritual journey. I just found stuff i posted on other forums a decade ago...we all evolve. Why do you have to be so hostile to people that just have a different belief system than you do?
http://www.factnet.org/Stages_Of_Spiritual_Growth.html
Let's have some coffee and talk about the REd Hot Chilli Peppers.
New album out soon.
london riots: more than 1,000 people charged.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14558465.
bangalore.
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This vid fits the events too. French band, great album.
london riots: more than 1,000 people charged.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14558465.
bangalore.
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So are they still jumping on kids to steal their trainers?
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks, you'd better run faster than my bullet
this isn't meant to be a shit stirring topic, just a thought or two, a memory really, from my jw days.
because i know i have more experience then most on debating the veracity of the trinity..... there are two camps, people of faith, and people of math.. people of faith will always be more convinced of the trinity every day, because for the most part, the teachers of the trinity are very up front about the fact that it is a mystery.. so the more you point out how illogical it is, the more a mystery the trinity becomes, and thus, it also becomes more real.
awesome!
And by the way, in the early 00s I spent thousands of hours debating the trinity online--from the same perspective as ATJ.
LOL. Just found the old yahoo group.
this isn't meant to be a shit stirring topic, just a thought or two, a memory really, from my jw days.
because i know i have more experience then most on debating the veracity of the trinity..... there are two camps, people of faith, and people of math.. people of faith will always be more convinced of the trinity every day, because for the most part, the teachers of the trinity are very up front about the fact that it is a mystery.. so the more you point out how illogical it is, the more a mystery the trinity becomes, and thus, it also becomes more real.
awesome!
What Sulla said. When I broke with JWism, I simply could not accept the Trinity. It didn't help that all I had known about the doctrine was strawman attacks against a caricature of the doctrine. Stuff like 1+1+1=3. Anyway, I was out of the JWs mentally, but I was still a unitarian. A couple of personal experiences made me slowly change my mind.
Incidentally, I really like how CS Lewis explained it metaphorically in Mere Christianity. Instead of using water as an example, he used multidimensionality. I've excerpted the relevant part:
You know that in space you can move in three ways-to left or right, backwards or forwards, up or down. Every direction is either one of these three or a compromise between them. They are called the three Dimensions. Now notice this. If you are using only one dimension, you could draw only a straight line. If you are using two, you could draw a figure: say, a square. And a square is made up of four straight lines. Now a step further. If you have three dimensions, you can then build what we call a solid body, say, a cube-a thing like a dice or a lump of sugar. And a cube is made up of six squares.
Do you see the point? A world of one dimension would be a straight line. In a two-dimensional world, you still get straight lines, but many lines make one figure. In a three-dimensional world, you still get figures but many figures make one solid body. In other words, as you advance to more real and more complicated levels, you do not leave behind you the things you found on the simpler levels: you still have them, but combined in new ways-in ways you could not imagine if you knew only the simpler levels.
Now the Christian account of God involves just the same principle. The human level is a simple and rather empty level. On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two separate beings-just as, in two dimensions (say on a flat sheet of paper) one square is one figure, and any two squares are two separate figures. On the Divine level you still find personalities; but up there you find them combined in new ways which we, who do not live on that level, cannot imagine. In God's dimension, so to speak, you find a being who is three Persons while remaining one Being, just as a cube is six squares while remaining one cube. Of course we cannot fully conceive a Being like that: just as, if we were so made that we perceived only two dimensions in space we could never properly imagine a cube. But we can get a sort of faint notion of it. And when we do, we are then, for the first time in our lives, getting some positive idea, however faint, of something super-personal-something more than a person. It is something we could never have guessed, and yet, once we have been told, one almost feels one ought to have been able to guess it because it fits in so well with all the things we know already.
You may ask, "If we cannot imagine a three-personal Being, what is the good of talking about Him?" Well, there isn't any good talking about Him. The thing that matters is being actually drawn into that three-personal life, and that may begin any time -tonight, if you like.
What I mean is this. An ordinary simple Christian kneels down to say his prayers. He is trying to get into touch with God. But if he is a Christian he knows that what is prompting him to pray is also God: God, so to speak, inside him. But he also knows that all his real knowledge of God comes through Christ, the Man who was God-that Christ is standing beside him, helping him to pray, praying for him. You see what is happening. God is the thing to which he is praying-the goal he is trying to reach. God is also the thing inside him which is pushing him on-the motive power. God is also the road or bridge along which he is being pushed to that goal. So that the whole threefold life of the three-personal Being is actually going on in that ordinary little bedroom where an ordinary man is saying his prayers. The man is being caught up into the higher kind of life-what I called Zoe or spiritual life: he is being pulled into God, by God, while still remaining himself.
how many christians?.
how many jehovah's witnesses?.
what do you all think of it?.
I think some white folks if not most do get it.
I guess I don't "get it."
But my own formative experience in this country isn't part of that black/white story. I belong to a different ethnic group entirely and grew up in an ethnic enclave which I seldom left as a kid. It was like growing up in a different country. Plus I was a JW on top of that which isolates even more. I guess it is like I am watching a conversation in a language I didn't learn as a child.
these comments are the reason why my family are leaving the uk, the comments are not mine but give a insight to what a dump the uk has become... i'm a 22 year old male and left the uk at 21 to live in australia and again like many people have said on here.
it is one of the best things i could have done.
the pay in the uk is disgusting.. the average pay here for a very average job is $20 an hour that is 12 an hour, thats just for stacking shelves at supermarkets.
I think the Chinese slowdown is going to hit Australia very hard. An Australian financial/economic analyst colleague said as much to me a couple of weeks ago, and when I expressed doubt he was adamant. It won't probably help Canada either. Both countries are very dependent on resource exports to China. That said, both are probably better places to ride out this mess than the UK.
how many christians?.
how many jehovah's witnesses?.
what do you all think of it?.
Wow, looking at the comments on this thread. I guess perception is everything. I think Tiana is a superior sort of character to any white princess born to unearned privilege. She is a strong black woman who made her success. She earned her place. I guess that's just my take on it, but I am not black, so my perception comes from a different place.
how many christians?.
how many jehovah's witnesses?.
what do you all think of it?.
We have it on Blu Ray and like it. The kids like it too. I didn't see anything racist in it. The heroine is a very positive role model.