when we think of the governing body in brooklyn do others like myself automtically think of them as the faithful and discreet slave?
haven't we been taught that they run the organisation known as the watchtower and bible tract society?
now its looks like i personally may have been wrong.. is it run by a group of legal rofessionals.
Waiting
I guess shy is an understatement to describe myself considering I am in sales and have to deal with the public daily. The field ministry really taught me to sell well, if you can sell a religion you can sell anything.
I hope I haven't been to abrupt with some of my posts please let me know if I have?
when we think of the governing body in brooklyn do others like myself automtically think of them as the faithful and discreet slave?
haven't we been taught that they run the organisation known as the watchtower and bible tract society?
now its looks like i personally may have been wrong.. is it run by a group of legal rofessionals.
Hi waiting
unfortunately I don't have a website I sometimes feel I don't really need one with all the info I have found. I believed sincerely that I had found the truth when I first started associating and was baptised with the witnesses. Like many of you guys here I was unaware of a few flaws. Fair enough the majority of brothers will say the faithful and discreet slave have never said they are infallable.
I have been searching the web for almost a year and a half now and thank God everday for taking away my feelings of isolation and disloyalty to the society. I truly believed I was condemned to death due to dissassociating myself for many years. I started attending meetings again about 2 years ago yet could not cope with the shunning the brothers inflicted upon me. I continued to go to meetings and prayed a lot. My lack of self esteem and faith in the kindness Jesus showed others seemed a stark contrast to what was being preached from the platform.In a way someone was listening to my prayers.
Thanx waiting to wanting to know about me I am really shy but I Do I hope I can help others who feel weighed down by the heavy burdens sometimes put on us by the society and GB.
am i a member of a cult?.
i found this quiz try it and let me know [url] http://www.omnimag.com/archives/mind_brain/cult/index.html[/url].
edited by - maxee on 15 june 2000 20:37:18
Am I a member of a cult?
I found this quiz try it and let me know [url] http://www.omnimag.com/archives/mind_brain/cult/index.html[/url]
Edited by - Maxee on 15 June 2000 20:37:18
i was talking to a friend of mine who used to work in bethel nyc, a well respected brother.
he was telling me of how material for the book study group was really decided.
especially those really "deep", "meaty" books like " freedom and life everlasting in the sons of god", "gods kingdom of a thousand years" etc.
I found this site with lots of information regarding spiritual food it also has some useful information about some food the slave would rather us not eat
[url] http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/index2.htm[/url]
Edited by - Maxee on 16 June 2000 7:9:27
when we think of the governing body in brooklyn do others like myself automtically think of them as the faithful and discreet slave?
haven't we been taught that they run the organisation known as the watchtower and bible tract society?
now its looks like i personally may have been wrong.. is it run by a group of legal rofessionals.
When we think of the Governing Body in Brooklyn do others like myself automtically think of them as the faithful and discreet slave? Haven't we been taught that they run the organisation known as the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society? Now Its looks like I personally may have been wrong.
Is it run by a group of legal rofessionals. Here is a couple of links which have brought a question to mind who really is the faithful slaveand does Jehovah use them as his sole channel here on earth?
[url] http://geocities.com/Elders_Book/flockaddon.htm[/url]
[url] http://stormloader.com/shaun/wt_lawyers.htm[/url]
ok, since it was so easy to get on here i'm assuming that this place is also over run by wts critics...but anyway!.
i've read a plenty of wt mags and got sucked in enough by the whole thing to go to a few meetings and do a bible study( which i wouldn't really call a study, since we just read one of their books).i soon broke of the whole thing and didn't even read another mag for about 6 years...6 months ago i wandered into h20 out of curiosity and ended up reading up on the arguments against the wts.. i have a simple question, and its probably very naive to ask this...but why is wts so afraid of debate?...there are plenty of sites arguing against the wts...but none for, apart the official site which doesn't address the issues raised by so called "apostates" anyway.. if the wt has the the truth why dont they just refute the the arguments against them instead of shutting up shop and labelling anyone who questions them an "apostate?
" or from satan or something.. i'm really beginning to think that all this wt business is just waste of time, that if i were to go to kh and ask questions that i have, i'm more likely to be labelled a trouble making agent of satan rather than be taken at face value as someone with serious questions.
I found a page with the KM with information about the GB's view on the internet
[url] http://www.stormloader.com/shaun/internet.htm[/url]
ok, since it was so easy to get on here i'm assuming that this place is also over run by wts critics...but anyway!.
i've read a plenty of wt mags and got sucked in enough by the whole thing to go to a few meetings and do a bible study( which i wouldn't really call a study, since we just read one of their books).i soon broke of the whole thing and didn't even read another mag for about 6 years...6 months ago i wandered into h20 out of curiosity and ended up reading up on the arguments against the wts.. i have a simple question, and its probably very naive to ask this...but why is wts so afraid of debate?...there are plenty of sites arguing against the wts...but none for, apart the official site which doesn't address the issues raised by so called "apostates" anyway.. if the wt has the the truth why dont they just refute the the arguments against them instead of shutting up shop and labelling anyone who questions them an "apostate?
" or from satan or something.. i'm really beginning to think that all this wt business is just waste of time, that if i were to go to kh and ask questions that i have, i'm more likely to be labelled a trouble making agent of satan rather than be taken at face value as someone with serious questions.
So we don't wonder if its run by a legal department maybe
[url] http://www.cyberpass.net/~h2o/wwwboard/messages/252364.html[/url]
ok, since it was so easy to get on here i'm assuming that this place is also over run by wts critics...but anyway!.
i've read a plenty of wt mags and got sucked in enough by the whole thing to go to a few meetings and do a bible study( which i wouldn't really call a study, since we just read one of their books).i soon broke of the whole thing and didn't even read another mag for about 6 years...6 months ago i wandered into h20 out of curiosity and ended up reading up on the arguments against the wts.. i have a simple question, and its probably very naive to ask this...but why is wts so afraid of debate?...there are plenty of sites arguing against the wts...but none for, apart the official site which doesn't address the issues raised by so called "apostates" anyway.. if the wt has the the truth why dont they just refute the the arguments against them instead of shutting up shop and labelling anyone who questions them an "apostate?
" or from satan or something.. i'm really beginning to think that all this wt business is just waste of time, that if i were to go to kh and ask questions that i have, i'm more likely to be labelled a trouble making agent of satan rather than be taken at face value as someone with serious questions.
The truth
Becoming aware of the reality of the possibility that we may be part of a religious organisation who is no closer to knowing God than all the others, is shattering emotionally. Most of all spiritually.
The effects upon my discovering a little more about the faithful and discreet slave have lend me to a crossroads. It has instilled in me "" Who am I to trust?
has anyone seen the paperback editions of previous and recent bookstudy pubs.
i haven't seen them here in aus?.
also i recieved a email today from my brother, who too is a enquiring jw.
Has anyone seen the paperback editions of previous and recent bookstudy pubs. I haven't seen them here in Aus?
Also I recieved a email today from my brother, who too is a enquiring JW. He wrote that in a footnote in a book written by Raymond Franz 'Christian Freedom' that due to the abundance of old publications in order to get rid of the excess stock these publications were nominated by the faithful and discreet slave and encouraged via KM's to be used as the book study spiritual food. Has anyone read Christian Freedom? Has anyone else heard this?
Dampens that scripture in Matt when we look at what 'the faithful and discreet slave' prides itself upon fulfilling...providing spiritual food at the appropriate times.
this link has a scan of a printed by the society brochure planned giving to benefit the kingdom.
the faithful and discreet slave has a fund to enable us to contribute stocks and saving to the kingdom preaching work whilst both we and them enjoytaxation benefits.or if we want to bequest our properties etc to the preaching work via this fund.
we can get it out before hand if we want too.
Could it be that the powers that be in Brooklyn cruise the net to check up on what their followers are saying. I have heard that their a heaps of computer wizards in there. In fact they may even have brothers especially assigned.
Sorry about by lateness in responding The link for the brochere on Planned giveing is
http://www.truthexodus.homestead.com
hope this one works if not they have adirectorry of home pages at homestead.com.
truthexodus.lraup
