the watch tower publications index under "watch tower publications" under the "books" subheading mentions the following elders' manuals prior to the 1991 "flock" book.
1960: kingdom ministry school course.
1972: kingdom ministry school course (revised).
St George of England: Those are the equivalents of the Organized book, not the elders' manual, and they are available at http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/ptiu.html and http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/preaching.html
Thank you though.
Remember all, these elders' manuals will help you expose JWs more, or expose apostates more, depending on who you'd ask.
today while i was working i remembered a wt on there having to be two witness to a person who comes forward later in life saying he had been molested as a chld and i was thinking no it really could not have been to blatant like i remembered it.
sadly i did find it and no i remembered it right.
it to me is sick!
life is to short,
The JW organization says that two witnesses to SEPARATE acts of wrongdoing are acceptable for someone to be DF'ed.
"If there is another witness to the same type of sin on the part of the accused, this would be basis for forming a judicial committee."-Flock book, elders' manual, published in 1991.
the watch tower publications index under "watch tower publications" under the "books" subheading mentions the following elders' manuals prior to the 1991 "flock" book.
1960: kingdom ministry school course.
1972: kingdom ministry school course (revised).
The Watch Tower Publications Index under "Watch Tower Publications" under the "Books" subheading mentions the following elders' manuals prior to the 1991 "Flock" Book. They are:
1960: Kingdom Ministry School Course
1972: Kingdom Ministry School Course (revised)
Under "Brochures":
1977: "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock" (first brochure)
1979: "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock" (second brochure)
1981: "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock" (third brochure)
I already have the 1991 "Flock" book both without and with notes. I also have the 2010 Shepherding book.
My request is, Where can I find downloads of any of the older elders' manuals listed above?
Thanks in advance!
does anyone have links for pdfs of any of the convention releases this year?.
many thanks..
BTTT.
my son who is 26 yrs.
old recently confided in my wife and myself that he is having a rough time moving on past the jw mindset.. he was associated with the witnesses for the first 24 years of his life, and he really tried to do the whole witness thing correctly, yet he was and still is a shy person.
now that he has been out for two years, he is having a lot of anger toward people who believe in god.
Don't similar things happen to people who leave any religion they've been with the total of their life so far?
does anyone have links for pdfs of any of the convention releases this year?.
many thanks..
OUTLAW: You remind me of Titus 1:15:
"All things are clean to clean persons. But to persons defiled and faithless nothing is clean, but both their minds and their consciences are defiled."
Also it is a violation of the Posting Guideline number 3 to make "obscene or vulgar comments". But I guess that doesn't apply to members of the religion this board is supposedly about.
yknot: Sorry all, if I have the releases first, I sure aren't giving them to further JWN's cause. You guys will all have to attend your local convention!
here is the promised debate.
the subject is whether or not god has an organization.
i'll start things simply:.
yknot wrote:
"Standfirm...however he felt 'mobbed' and he felt he couldn't do justice in responding to all. All in all he has an active account here and perhaps his return will be tempered to a comment here and there versus trying to spear-head larger topics that literally pit one man against many."
I agree with that.
does anyone have links for pdfs of any of the convention releases this year?.
many thanks..
You guys better hurry up. I'll be getting hard copies when I visit Green Bay, WI this weekend. Plus, there is a spoiler thread on a JW only forum. You guys don't want to lose JWN's reputation as the place to get the latest news on everything JW first, do you?
FYI: The releases are, according to other JWN threads; a revised YPA volume 1, a new brochure on basic doctrines called "Listen to God and Live Forever", and part 2 of the history video. Anything else is a joke.
can't wait to hear all of the miserable whining on facebook...too early, the bed in my hotel room is so uncomfortable, just filled up the car $$$....ouch!
will be reading from the boat, sitting on the ocean, having a true appreciation of my many blessings.
ahhhhhh... poor schmucks!.
What about this type of whining?
"Stupid cult WT$ is going to have yet another convention brainwashing session this year. Expect more BS about obeying the GB, more cult rags and Kool-Aid released. They should change the theme of the convention too,"OBEY THE SLAVE!!!" Hey man this convention is gonna be the BEST ONE EVER even though five minutes after its over theyll all forget the subject and anything that was said."
does anyone have links for pdfs of any of the convention releases this year?.
many thanks..
yknot, you don't have the PDFs yet, do you.
