Posts by RottenRiley

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Problems: The Bethel Family and Social Security Tax Exemption

by daniel-p in

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so i happened to be reading a website about the amish, and i came across this:.

"do the amish pay taxes?

""self-employed amish do not pay social security tax.

RottenRiley

Do you think the Bethelites should receive 10 years of Social Security credits for not performing any credible or beneficial work to aid Society? Circuit Overseers come off the work with nothing, very few of these Jokers ever saved any money and are at the mercy of the Watchtower for financial support in their Golden Years.

Who is left holding the wet-paper bag? The Congregations are, they are told to build homes for the former faithful Bethel servants while many of the Witnesses are living off Government Aid. Why should those on Government Aid, who listened to the Slave, have to live like Skid-Row so the Circuit Overseers can live in better homes than many of the JWs do? The COs still get invited to all the functions and the richer JWs hand them money and pay for their utilities, who pays for the utililites of JWs who are too poor to have a warm home? Take a look at all the angles the Watchtower screws the rank-and-file members with, most are in deep financial debt, some have filed bankruptcy every Seven years before the more aggressive BK reform was activated.

I told you about the Kingdom Hall "Creep Side" Congregation, it's where the Witnesses were browe-beaten for three months and those who did not agree, were taken to the Rehabilitation Stress Camp (Elders Room, Priveleges were stripped off immediantly from Elder to RF, taken to the Elders room many of times and harrassed in Field Service why "You are not being loving by giving the $48 a month for life".

In all, the Watchtower has a pretty good scam, telling the poorest members of Society to blindly follow and draining them of their saving to keep up the appearances that the Watchtower treats the Traveling Brothers and Branch Members so good! Wrong!

Another Fun day with Facebook! To $73 by March!

by RottenRiley in

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on my last thread, i reported how they were going to gap the stock down to $65, they did it to $65.87, i am back at $68.60 and now up $1.60 on 250 contracts!

you guys thought hedge funds were wicked, even a jw can run one!.

RottenRiley

On my last thread, I reported how they were going to gap the stock down to $65, they did it to $65.87, I am back at $68.60 and now up $1.60 on 250 contracts! You guys thought Hedge Funds were wicked, even a JW can run one!

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Did Jesus say his followers would be witnesses of Jehovah?

by blondie in

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what did jesus say?.

(acts 1:8)8 but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.

by "divine providence" what did jesus' followers become known as?.

RottenRiley

Sarah, I never got a decent answer to what kind of worship or bowing down to Jesus Christ we were suppose to peform to our Lord!

St. Paul had no problems using the name of Jesus Christ with great fruency, I started to notice a few years ago that the terms "Faithful Slave", "annointed", "Elders" were used with greater frequency than the name YHWH lifted above all other names in Heaven. Why are JWs so ashamed or fearful to use the name of Jesus Christ, I think the book "The Greatest Man" to deflect from the fact the Watchtower Organization uses their terms more than they use the name of Jesus Christ!

How many times did Paul use the name of Jesus in chapter 3? Witnesses have their own theocratic language, so when the name of Jesus Christ is used, their fine tuned ears are quick to notice a name that's infrequently used. That's why they get nervous, they are trained from infancy to use Jesus Christ's name in a limited way, we have our own personal experiene and I can tell you people have been in the Elders Room for using the name of Jesus Christ and saying "It's ok to pray to Jesus like Stephen did in Acts 7?", we had a brother get slammed for saying it was ok to pray to Jesus Christ when he cited the example of Stephen. The elders said that Stephen was not thinking right when he prayed directly to Jesus. Go Figure that one out!

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Philippians 3

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

Knowing Christ

3 Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord. To write to you again about this is no trouble for me and is a protection for you.

2 Watch out for “dogs,” [ a ] watch out for evil workers, watch out for those who mutilate the flesh. 3 For we are the circumcision, the ones who serve by the Spirit of God, boast in Christ Jesus, and do not put confidence in the flesh— 4 although I once also had confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he has grounds for confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised the eighth day; of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew born of Hebrews; regarding the law, a Pharisee; 6 regarding zeal, persecuting the church; regarding the righteousness that is in the law, blameless.

7 But everything that was a gain to me, I have considered to be a loss because of Christ. 8 More than that, I also consider everything to be a loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. Because of Him I have suffered the loss of all things and consider them filth, so that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own from the law, but one that is through faith in Christ [ b ] —the righteousness from God based on faith. 10 My goal is to know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 assuming that I will somehow reach the resurrection from among the dead.

Reaching Forward to God’s Goal

12 Not that I have already reached the goal or am already fully mature, but I make every effort to take hold of it because I also have been taken hold of by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I do not [ c ] consider myself to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and reaching forward to what is ahead, 14 I pursue as my goal the prize promised by God’s heavenly [ d ] call in Christ Jesus. 15 Therefore, all who are mature should think this way. And if you think differently about anything, God will reveal this also to you. 16 In any case, we should live up to whatever truth we have attained. 17 Join in imitating me, brothers, and observe those who live according to the example you have in us. 18 For I have often told you, and now say again with tears, that many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their end is destruction; their god is their stomach; their glory is in their shame. They are focused on earthly things, 20 but our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. 21 He will transform the body of our humble condition into the likeness of His glorious body, by the power that enables Him to subject everything to Himself.

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Did Jesus say his followers would be witnesses of Jehovah?

by blondie in

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what did jesus say?.

(acts 1:8)8 but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.

by "divine providence" what did jesus' followers become known as?.

RottenRiley

FatFreak: Awesome points, they still will go over the heads of the Cult members, won't they? I never thought of it that way, thank you!

Why does the Watchtower hate Jesus Christ's name so much? When I started to use the name of our lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the bells and sirens went off at the Kingdom Hall.

I had elders, family members and JWs ask me "Hey, what's up with using the name of Jesus so much?" It was not long before I was put under suspcious eyes of everyone. Why is that? I was not going around saying things like:

'IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, GET UP AND WALK!" to all the crippled Witnesses.

"I COMMAND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST TO LEAVE THIS MENTALLY ILL WOMAN ALONE!" Never said that type of thing either.

"I WENT TO THE BEACH AND ASKED JESUS CHRIST TO CLEAR UP THE CLOUDS AND MAKE THE SURF EIGHT FEET HIGH WITH NO CLOSE-OUTS AND IT WORKED!" No, I did not make any type of loud noise, I used the name of Jesus the same frequency as we read in the Holy Scriptures, so why did all the family and friends get paranoid of using the name?

Also, I was not going all Trinity on everybody, I was using the name of Jesus Christ and this brought fear among my peers, why? Why are they so afraid of the name of Jesus Christ, it was like the demon possessed individuals who were brought before Jesus Christ and got really uncomfortable and began to scream at the top of their lungs, the fear the name of Jesus Christ brings to Witnesses is kinda creepy.

Do they think we are acting like Jesus Christ is YHWH, I never gave that type of impression and it still made everyone uncomfortable. They use the book "The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived" book to discount their avoidance of the name of Jesus Christ. Why do you think they avoid his name Blondie or anyone else? What is so fearful of the name of Jesus Christ that using it makes them squirm? Thanks!

Matthew 28:

16 Then the eleven disciples left for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him—but some of them doubted!

18 Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. 19 Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, b baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. 20 Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Philippians 2:8-11

Amplified Bible (AMP)

8 And after He had appeared in human form, He abased and humbled Himself [still further] and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross!

9 Therefore [because He stooped so low] God has highly exalted Him and has [a] freely bestowed on Him the name that is above every name,

10 That in (at) the name of Jesus every knee [b] should (must) bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

11 And every tongue [ [c] frankly and openly] confess and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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JC 'example' Video

by tresdecu in

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i am going crazy watching this thing.

i can't believe how ridiculous it is.

cedars gives a great commentary on his site, via a youtube video.. here is the link to his site where you can watch the video with his commentary:.

RottenRiley

Chevy Chase said "Look, there's Big Bend and Parliament!" National Lampoon's "European Vacation"

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I am having trouble believing in God...

by thedepressedsoul in

i was raised a jw and i am still one but recently i have been having trouble believing in a god.

this is not meant to offend anyone who does, i am just curious to see if i am the only one who thinks this..... to start, i am a very black and white person.

if 1+1=2 it makes sense to me and i can agree with it.

RottenRiley

It seems all the great minds ponder the very question you are asking yourself. Sir Isaac Newton's competitor with advanced Math was Gottfried Leibiz, he asked the question:

"Why is there something instead of nothing"? Gottfried Leibniz one of the greatest Math Minds in history.

What do you think he meant, was he agnostic, deist or theist? It's often forgotton the majority of scientist throughout history were either Theist or Agnostic, a few Deists were on the table but the majority were Theists, why?

Why do people think by eliminating God from the equation, your going to feel more warm and fuzzy knowing you have no purpose, all life will end one day in a few Billion years when life is exstiguished? I don't feel the love on that Billboard, no answers have been given.

To be fair, read the debate between Dr. Bart Erhman and Dr. Daniel B Wallace, you will see how all this hype of textual-variants and Erhman's hyperbole over much is addressed. I think Bart knows how to sell books and now people are attacking Bart for his other book of trying to provide evidence for some type of historical Jesus.

Can you see the bias, why is Dr. Erhman blasted for defending a historical Jesus but welcomed when he attacks the Bible? I see a agenda, it's pretty obvious! We congradulate Dr. Erhman for his attacking the New Testament, yet there are bashers who are not happy he is trying to demonstrate there was a guy named Jesus who lived in the First Century, maybe he did not have a empty tomb, perform miracles, but he did exist.

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What are you reading right now??

by DATA-DOG in

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i am reading "stranger in a strange land" by robert a. heinlein.

i read it over 20 years ago.

now i am reading it from a completely different perspective.

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http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555

http://www.amazon.com/market-makers-extract-millions-dollars-ebook/dp/B006KXN07G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1392879394&sr=8-3&keywords=Market+Makers

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Black-Box-Quantitative-Frequency/dp/1118362411/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1392879441&sr=1-1&keywords=high+frequency+trading

Not big on the Rich Dad Poor Dad series of booksk, it's not going to cut it!

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U.S. Army admits to widespread cultural pedophilia in Afghanistan

by RottenRiley in

my atheist, agnostic and deist family members, why don't we attack this insanity more?

dr. richard dawkins is finally calling out islam for it's true nature, i hope he is balanced because i don't want him to get killed by these whack jobs.

i enjoy listening to dr. dawkins debate and would like him to attack their false religion like he lambaste's christians, i guess it's a tight-wire act he must follow or they would kill him.

RottenRiley

I think the methods employed by the Mujahideen shocked the Soviets badly, raping grown men by young Taliban Warriors (told to do it by their elders)was kind of a "right of passage", Soviet soldiers that were lucky enough to gain their freedom told tales of how other soliders of Communist Afghani and Russian fighers were sexually abused to the point of death.

It's been a long time since I read the book detailing the aftermath of the Soviet's own Vietnam-like experience, the cruel methods of torture screwed the minds of the soldiers to the point of heavy drinking (Not saying much in Russia, alcoholism is very high because of low economic mobility) and suicide. The saying "All's fair in Love and War", nobody can grasp how ugly war is and especially when the opposing armies are not afraid of acting like animals. The Soviets had no business getting involved with the Afghanistan War even though Afghanistan would have been better off under the yokes of the Soviets. The blood bath ensuing the Soviet Withdrawl, Afghanistan went in to total chaos killing off a large portion of their men over sixteen years old, nobody has ever been able to control Afghanistan for any period of time.

The more I read about Afghanistan, the more I wonder why George W. Bush wanted this land so badly, the claimed minerals and riches is a load of crap, how are you going to extract all these minerals when anything can cause the locals to turn on anyone, tribes, war-lords are not in control, it's a Government run by the Taliban with the Kharzai showing it's true colors as a type of Taliban. What a sick place to live, the poor children are treated like shit, it's a real life zoo of animals running around, I pray for the kids!

Why did we go in to Afghanistan again, the poor American and British Soliders who are going to be scarred by the political leaders, what were they thinking?

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TV Ideas For JWNers. "Luther", "Dexter" "The Killings" "Braquo"-

by RottenRiley in

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i am looking for more ideas of interesting movies and gritty crime shows to watch.. .

the killings, wallander, luther, dexter, braquo (french (english subbed) german (berlin berlin), sherlock, george gently, inspector frost, inspector lewis, did i say "dexter (though the ending was a bummer :( ) "orange is the new black", "house of cards", "mad men".. .

can you add to my profile of movies and series i need to see?

RottenRiley

Lisa Rose, I loved Debra and pondered all the shit she endured after walking in on Dexter killing Doomsday.

Dexter-the-Sociopath sucked Debra dry of her humanity, when he pushed Hannah down her throat by having her move in, that's when I knew Debra's days were numbered. It was like Debra and Quinn were met for each other though it was too late for Debra to regain her relationship Quinn? (Why am I getting mad at a fictious person? I grew to love Debra, Angel and Quinn, even Hannah was not as tweaked as Dexter.)

A twisted movie is "Sangre de Mi Sangre" a good Mexican boy (Hard working, good hearted) is out to find his father in New York, he run's in to a corrupt and con-man teenager along the way.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0834938/

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In this Oscar-winning character study, a startling discovery comes to light for a retired criminal investigator as he pens a biographical novel about the unsolved case of a young newlywed's brutal rape and murder years earlier.

Cast:: Soledad Villamil, Ricardo Darín, Carla Quevedo, Pablo Rago, Javier Godino, Bárbara Palladino, Rudy Romano, Alejandro Abelenda, Mario Alarcón, Guillermo Francella, José Luis Gioia

Genre:: Crime Thrillers, Crime Dramas, Mystery, Thrille

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Why Do Some People Still Disagree With Special Relativity?

by DT in

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i have to admit that i feel poorly equipped to address this subject.

i'm more interested in the feedback of others than in trying to persuade others of my opinions.

i should also point out that although this topic is specifically about special relativity, much of what is said could also apply to general relativity.. special relativity has had a profound effect on both science and modern culture.

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Why is the Black-Shoales and Binomial valautions of derivative pricing obsolete? Few Options trade even close to the two pricing models taught in Finance, my complaints go beyond Fischer Black and Myron Shoals methods, even the advanced "Heath-Jarrow-Morton" blows when it come to capturing a Arb, why are these models worthless now? Whether it was the Black-Shoales method that almost blew up the World Economy is a debate, my argument is that none of these pricing models come near the Assets were are trying to profit by. Can you educated me how to create a better pricing model than HJM for profit when Market Centers are too slow to capture the gains we can make once the High Frequency Manipulators of Price begin to dump these assets, none of them still go near Black-Shoales consistently, a smart guy like you can help me better sharpen my game.

Using my own method, I bought 27@ 2.07 9:32 est and 73 @ 2.08 Est(100 Contracts of FB FEB 22, 65.50 CALLs, total investment $20800 after commissions. Sell price was $31,900 after commissions), the NYSE Specialist opened up Facebook at $67.05 on the Consolidated Opening Print of 204,779 and the Options began trading unfairly at $1.83 only to zoom to $3.60 Offer per contract. As we speak, Facebook is down to $66.08 because another 185,000,000 shares are going to be offered on to the Market after their aquistion. When I used the Black-Shoales and Binomial theory to put out sell orders, 2 got filled at $3.60 (Binomial said they were worth $4.10, Black Shoales revealed $4.30 as their true value), I sold most of those contracts at around $3.10 average price out because I used a antiquated valuation of synthetic assets, I am happy I dumped them from my Gutt Feelings) because only Thursday and Friday remain of "t-value" and "volitilty" dumps down hard after a giant move, New Life time High" so to be safe, I dumped them when Facebook was flirting with $68.70. Perhaps it might head to $70 after I picked up some June $65 Contracts tomorrow, I don't like paying up heavily but what can I do? I made $1.10 on 100 contracts, if I had followed those time-tested scientific models of valuation, I would have waited forever to get my fills. I discounted heavily the price the CBOE, AMEX and NYSE Market Makers must make and still the price was no place near where pricing models said they should be.

Why do Finance Schools teach the Black Shoales and Binomial Theories when everyday price action proves they are worthless?