well i went on a date saturday, and while i was walking to to the restaurant i see one of the 'elders' in one of my old congregations ( central compton ) walked past me real fast .
i realized it was one of the 'elders' who protected the 'elder' who held my card ( other story ) for 8 months .
well to make the long story short other witness came, and where scared to see me back in town lol.
They are afraid of you because the Watchtower instills fear and anxiety, instead of joy and happiness. The Pharisees were great at running past preceived sinners, Jesus Christ enjoyed teaching the same people the Pharisees and Religious Hypocrites ran from!
They are cowards and don't think for themselves, what a dirty little religion!
many jws don't know the basic doctrines we all use to debate the clergy with.. .
jws don't know the bible, the know a few proof-texts but can't handle the bible like the witnesses of 1950s-1990s, what happened?.
the caliber of the new elders is horrible when compared with the elders of 1950s-1990s, they don't know how to use their bible, they are turning towards orgnazational minor details while ignoring the bible and gospel message.. .
Many JWs don't know the basic doctrines we all use to debate the clergy with.
JWs don't know the Bible, the know a few proof-texts but can't handle the Bible like the Witnesses of 1950s-1990s, what happened?
The caliber of the new Elders is horrible when compared with the Elders of 1950s-1990s, they don't know how to use their Bible, they are turning towards Orgnazational minor details while ignoring the Bible and Gospel Message.
What happened to the Great Education the Watchtower and Awake once provided(or so they claimed), now it's a Readers Digest Version, ripped to Sixteen Pages, so is the Watchtower's Collective Brain-Power slowly dying? What was it like when you were out in Field Service?
The Honey Carts, they are making the Witnesses even more socially incompetent because people are counting time standing around as Evangelization, how can they be a "Phillip the Evangelizer" when they don't talk to people?
Do you remember how many doors and people you spoke to? Are modern day Witnesses as Bible Educated as we were? The Generation of Bible Students who knew the Bible has passed away, soon there is going to be a App to replace the JW and only donations will be requested instead of their time.
what did jesus say?.
(acts 1:8)8 but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.
by "divine providence" what did jesus' followers become known as?.
Designs I agree with your hypothesis using the name Jehovah in a Fundamental Christian Enviroment. The JWs have given the Divine Name a bad rap, I hear Christian Speakers on the radio use YHWH not near the vast volume they speak of Jesus Christ.
The name Jehovah made many members cringe, I think the Witnesses are the reason it's used in a conservative manner, I get your point though and agree people would attribute my use of the Divine Name to JWs and I might lose my audience or get strange looks. We already had a real life lab, remember how people looked at us when we used the name Jehovah instead of Jesus Christ?
Smiddy, I agree the New Testament - Greek Scriptures sure mention Jesus Christ's name far more than the Watchtower care's to imagine. It's all because they wanted to be different, Judge Ruthernut could care less about Jehovah's name getting exhonerated, he wanted to try a little experiment even if it meant his disciples got some "tar and feathers", "mob beatings for no good reasons", "imprisonments", "angering Christedom's Clergy by their bombastic abusivie Speaker Cars, what a bunch of Trolls the Bible Students under the Judge were!
other apostles of the bible were not afraid to engage in religious discussions (peter in the temple court yard), paul before festus, king agrippa and bernice, paul before the emperors of rome and his religious consorts or experts.. .
i don't see the watchtower's scholars of fame engaging with the world's religions or metaphysical discussions, why?
if fundamental christians, catholic and anglican church apologist are not afraid to debate topics with scientist, how come the people who claim to be "jehovah's only" don't share in the "thought of public ideas"?
Thanks Ruby!
The Watchtower refuses to answer the valid questions asked by Christians and Non Christians alike! I think I would pay to see them try to justify their position based on a Parable. Can you imagine the GB saying "99 percent of the Parables are Parables except the Faithful Slave, Jesus Christ Jehovah provided a Faithful Slave for all mankind to emulate and blindly follow and obey without questioning this Modern Day Moses and Aaron. If you doubt us, than you are the Modern Korah, Dathan and Abiratham. The Faithful Slave though not directly taught in the Holy Scriptures is explained throughly by Jehovah's Witnesses, anyone who disagrees will get shunned or told they will die at the Big A."
How do they justify their waffling positions on "These Blood Fragments are not Blood, therefore we have sanctified this Blood Product!", next "The Generation or Overlapping Generation", "Shunning is Christian", "Hatred of Dissidents is Christian", "Not caring about the Poor, the Orphans, the Elderly or developing programs for humanity's bettering, those things are Bad while donating money to cover Pedophile Lawsuits, That's Good!"
I would enjoy seeing the Fundamental Christians destroy them on topics of humanity, human rights, antichrist conduct. The Governing Body would get up and walk away from the lowly Christians like the Pharisees hated the common man and women. It's strange my Aunt told me seven years ago I would find out the truth about the truth (before that term was coined) because I was having problems understanding why my Aunts all hated each other. I have a Aunt who is the most wicked woman you can imagine, she thrieves off pain and suffering, loves to gossip about all the JWs who don't kiss her ass. Her kids can't wait for her to die, she complains they are all bickering over who is going to get her money, what wonderful humans this religion breeds, don't you think?
recently attended a sad.. bethel speaker was gushing about the wt's embrace of new technology, in the part of his talk warning about "apostate" web sites.. a loose summary of his comments:.
"and the brothers at headquarters have made it very safe for you to go to our website.
in fact, the brothers talked to the folks at google, and they made a special arrangement so that when you type in 'j w period' into the google search engine, it automatically shows you the jw.org website.
You all remember "Deep Horizon"? The Biggest Oil Spill and Accident near United States Soil? BP paid Google $25 Million to refine any search relating to the accident.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/37574169/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/
Examples were:
"Deep Horizon Oil Spill Horror" Google say's "See how British Petroleum is making the Gulf Ports better than before the accident"
Type in Gulf Spill and Google's Search Machine provided you with BP friendly links showing a friendly worker cleaning off a seal or bird.
"BP Ruined the Gulf Economy" the first twenty links were "BP pours $5 Billion in to the Gulf and Port cities".
Did the Watchtower pay Google to do this refined search enhancement, I am willing to bet they did!
other apostles of the bible were not afraid to engage in religious discussions (peter in the temple court yard), paul before festus, king agrippa and bernice, paul before the emperors of rome and his religious consorts or experts.. .
i don't see the watchtower's scholars of fame engaging with the world's religions or metaphysical discussions, why?
if fundamental christians, catholic and anglican church apologist are not afraid to debate topics with scientist, how come the people who claim to be "jehovah's only" don't share in the "thought of public ideas"?
Awesome Blondie, thank you for taking the time to post to this thread. Why was Brother Russell more courageous than his latter counter-parts Ruthernut, Knorr, Franz and ??? I stopped caring after Franz.
Who from the Watchtower could sit down before the leading Atheists speakers on the circuit and sound rational? I don't see anyone from the Watchtower matching witts against Dr. William Lane Craig, Ravi Zacharias, Dr. John Lennox, Dr. Steve Meyer, Micheal Behe, Dr. Jeff Zweerink, ect.. This list is tiny, keeping the thread to it's idea, who from the Watchtower could take the place of any of these scholars I posted? The point is the Watchtower is arrogant and refuses to stand their ground on their own Doctrines, Ethics, Morality and Philosophical arguments, how can Witnesses be so certain they have the Truth when their leaders are too cowardly to preach to outside audiences and engage with leading thinkers of Theology?
We know the Watchtower can change their entire teachings overnight and few Witnesses would have the moral fiber to take a stand. The issue of Blood, how do they justify what parts of blood are not violating the Jewish Law? I hope someone can post a JW Scholar who could sit down with Lawerence Krausse or Dr. Greene from Columbia and answer question in a coherent manner.
They did not suggest, they said with the greatest conviction of any Cult, these are the dates of the End!
May I ask a question, how come Christendom does not receive the same "good grace" or "Get out of religious jail" the Watchtower thinks they should? They are bold faced liars, they use excuses (Reason rolled in a lie), half-truths and logical fallacies to trick their members they said the End was coming!
The Watchtower think's the public are idiots, unable to read the past Magazines great websites like JW-Facts, FreeMinds.Org have up and running for people to evaluate. They are desperate to write such nonsensical trash, "JWs were modestly eager and might have said, Oh, Jesus might and might not return in 1914." They are sneaky little snakes who try to cover up their tracks while the slither back down their lying holes!
i am looking for more ideas of interesting movies and gritty crime shows to watch.. .
the killings, wallander, luther, dexter, braquo (french (english subbed) german (berlin berlin), sherlock, george gently, inspector frost, inspector lewis, did i say "dexter (though the ending was a bummer :( ) "orange is the new black", "house of cards", "mad men".. .
can you add to my profile of movies and series i need to see?
The Bridge was fricken awesome, thank you for that idea! What to start next?
other apostles of the bible were not afraid to engage in religious discussions (peter in the temple court yard), paul before festus, king agrippa and bernice, paul before the emperors of rome and his religious consorts or experts.. .
i don't see the watchtower's scholars of fame engaging with the world's religions or metaphysical discussions, why?
if fundamental christians, catholic and anglican church apologist are not afraid to debate topics with scientist, how come the people who claim to be "jehovah's only" don't share in the "thought of public ideas"?
I listened to Island Man's call to the Watchtower about "Should you leave your religion if you feel it's false" based off the Awake, if that Bethel Elder is the caliber of their talent, they would float like a lead ballon! I like the points you make, they are grossly incompetent and offer nothing to Society, they are "Takers" and nothing more, thank you Data-Dog!
other apostles of the bible were not afraid to engage in religious discussions (peter in the temple court yard), paul before festus, king agrippa and bernice, paul before the emperors of rome and his religious consorts or experts.. .
i don't see the watchtower's scholars of fame engaging with the world's religions or metaphysical discussions, why?
if fundamental christians, catholic and anglican church apologist are not afraid to debate topics with scientist, how come the people who claim to be "jehovah's only" don't share in the "thought of public ideas"?
Ruby whose private home was the Areopagus? My Bible say's Paul spoke with the men there and even used one of the alters to get their attention, they were philosopher and enjoyed discussions of meta-human things, or was that a private home?
The Bible is filled with more examples of Public Speaking than "Private Home Debates", how did you miss all the accounts? Paul before Rome, before the Jewish Court, Paul before Festus, Aggripa, Felix, Bernice and his many tours throughout Asia Minor and the Middle East.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areopagus You can examine the history of the Aeropagus and evaluate it if you think it's a private home.
