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  Is immorality escalating?

  by jworld in

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  i got the convention update from my mom, who attended this past weekend.

  sounds like the society made the claim that immorality is escalating at a faster clip.

  is that true?

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  I love the argument from authority they make. "Gerald Heard"? Who is he to decide that it is a "truism" that nobody can look at the world without being concerned? So I wikipedia'd the man.

  He maintained a regular discipline of meditation, along the lines of yoga, for many years. In the 1950s, Heard tried LSD and felt that, used properly, it had strong potential to 'enlarge Man's mind' by allowing a person to see beyond his ego.

  Does the WTS really want to be taking viewpoints from someone who does yoga and is on LSD? (Well, was, the man is dead now, obviously.)

  After quoting some more people, they just blindly assert that these are "clear-thinking men". But isn't that the question of reader? That it's just alarmist talk? The WTS just say "NO!" and doesn't actually give any evidence whatsoever. On the contrary, it continues to talk about "the moral breakdown of Christianity" - when this was never even hinted at, neither in the question, nor in the quotations, nor even in the bible - a book which is bullshit anyway.

  Close off with some threats and fearmongering and call it a day.
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  Human Ancestor Older Than Previously Thought; Finding Offers New Insights Into Evolution

  by whereami in

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  human ancestor older than previously thought; finding offers new insights into evolution .

  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110629181853.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=feed%3a+sciencedaily+%28sciencedaily%3a+latest+science+news%29.

  sciencedaily (june 30, 2011) modern humans never co-existed with homo erectus -- a finding counter to previous hypotheses of human evolution -- new excavations in indonesia and dating analyses show.

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  Interesting. Just pure speculation, but it could be that erectus just continued its emigration and sapiens later came to the same region. I don't know how migratory erectus was, though. An alternative is, of course, just a generation between the two we've missed so far.
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  What is the most offensive/idiotic piece of WT literature you've read from the past 20 years (approximately)?

  by Chemical Emotions in

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  i think that some of the dumbest were ones that pertained to science- not all of them, but a few, particularly the ones about evolution.

  the most offensive (and also dumbest) were the ones about women, and the ones about rape.

  those were horrible.

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  The first book I picked up after becoming an atheist was the latest iteration of the Life - How Did It Get here. In the first three chapters I scribbled 20 comments in the margin, containing rebuttals and pointing out fallacies and quote mines. I stopped at some point because my surprise about all the bullshit started turning into anger about the pure lies and deception they are putting people through.
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  Michael Jackson Music and WT Doctrine

  by discreetslave in

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  with the disgust i feel over the betrayal of the wbts i've started listening to michael jackson.

  pre jw as a child i loved mj i remember listening to his music thru some rough times at home.

  when i became a jw i no longer listened to his music since he was da.

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  In that case I wonder what he meant to say about the WTS in Billy Jean. Honestly, I think you're grasping here. The guy was a believing Jehovah's Witness (though not active), and Janet Jackson was even more serious. This leads me to think that they are not, in fact, deriding the WTS in any way.
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  Do humans like confrontation?

  by TimothyT in

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  i was just thinking about this very question.. i now havnt been to meetings for a long time and i have received no calls since telling the elders to leave me alone 3 weeks ago.. the past 3 weeks have been a lovely, peaceful, enjoyable, stress-free 3 weeks - no doubts there!.

  but why is it that i can feel a part of me that wants them to call me?.

  why do i feel that i want someone to stir something up so i can tell them to get lost?.

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  Lore nailed it.

  It's a bit of revenge and a bit of anger for what they did to us. They have ruled over us all this time - now it's get the power back, show them that we do not acknowledge their majesty. Our mind is a territory and by doing this we're marking it.
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  I have question about the new light on the statues toes

  by Igot2bme in

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  my son went to the dc this past weekend and we visited on the phone for a bit about what he picked up there.

  he of course was sad and worried for us because we no longer have anything to do with the org.

  we covered alot of issues that had to do with why i felt that the org did not have gods holy spirit.

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  @NRFG: Brilliant.

  @lgot2bme: I think it's one of those "armageddon is not around the corner, we have TURNED the corner!" and "it's not within armreach, it's within our eyelids!" -things.
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  I BET YOU CAN'T WATCH THIS WITHOUT SHOUTING AT THE SCREEN!!!

  by cantleave in

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  warning!!!

  bigot alert.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otsbfs32ycu&feature=share.

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  Thunderf00t, what an idiot. Now he's feeding the trolls.
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  Our planet designed for us?

  by cantleave in

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  http://www.youtube.com/user/darkmatter2525#p/u/2/smudxo4xkw8.

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  Darkmatter has some hilarious videoclips (aside from this mindblowing one, obviously).

  The best answer to this, however, is (in my personal opinion) Douglas Adams' puddle that wakes up one morning and thinks that the hole he lives in must be made for him since it fits him so perfectly.
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  Do you believe in an annointed class?

  by irondork in

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  regarless of their identity - in fact, if they are really "discreet" their identity should probably remain unknown - do you believe the bible speaks of a spirit annointed class of folks, a limited number of humans that have been called to heaven to serve with jesus?.

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  dm6, believing you are being judged in a body of energy by a deity from the polytheistic Canaanite pantheon rather than being judged in a body of matter is not actually more or less sensible, as it's both utter nonsense.
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  JW's and Gift Giving

  by What Now? in

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  i dont think most jehovahs witnesses realize how easy they have it when it comes to gift giving.

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  TDaze

  I was always a loner, but when it came to family it was quite easy. If I wanted something, all I had to do was ask my parents, and they'd just give it to me. Hell, I remember wanting a gamepad for my PC. I was short ten guilders (pre-euro times) and my parents just said: "Spend your money on something else you like. This one is on us."

  I never was that demanding, and they usually had to come up with the idea of gifting me shit, so this was never an issue in my life.