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  The Biblical Definition of an Apostate!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
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  Jackals

  I can't see how casting someone out and abandoning them can ever be the Christian thing to do..but what do I know, I think logically

  Jack x
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  I DONT want their help! :D

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello people,.

  despite the advice given here, i thought it only fair to tell the elders that are calling me to 'help me' with my sexuality, that i dont want their help!

  yesterday one called.. he told me that he and another elder would like to speak with me to find out what the situation is.

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  Jackals

  You know what you want and you know what is going to make you happy. You're so close to where you wanted to be 4 months ago Tim and I'm so proud to be a part of it.

  Jack x
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  So It Begins...

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all i can say is lol!!!.

  so... i have been outed... im gay, and at least one elder now knows!.

  while i was at bingo tonight with jack i recieved a call from him.

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  Jackals

  The worst part of all this is that it put a dampener on our bingo night! Gutted!

  But seriously..The end result of this whole process is going to be the same no matter what - Tim away from the JWs, living his life the way he wants, freely. What I despise is that his plan to fade out slowly and painlessly has been taken out of his hands by someone who doesn't even know the full story.

  Here's a Pina Colada for you sweetheart

  xxxxxx
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  If I do not go and speak with the elders by Sunday, then he will speak with them on my behalf.

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my friend called round before and has just left.

  he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.

  i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.

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  Jackals

  What I hate about this is the ultimatum aspect. It's forcing Tim to act prematurely and coming out is a delicate issue, one which needs time and support. As a friend he should be supporting Tim through this time, instead what he's doing is detrimental. What does he think will be gained by this? Will Tim miraculously decide to become a devout Witness again? Of course not, if anything it'll push him further away. I don't look at things from a JW point of view, I look at it from a position of compassion and humanity. Tim needs time to make his own decision in his own way, the way this brother has acted makes me very aggravated.

  Jack x
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  The parable of the sheep and the goats!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading again the parapble jesus spoke to his disciples about the sheep and goats.

  when i read it, it was plain and simple in my eyes.. 34 then the king will say to those on his right, come, you who have been blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.

  35 for i became hungry and you gave me something to eat; i got thirsty and you gave me something to drink.

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  Jackals

  See that isn't a very cool interpretation at all..what's annoying is that they interpret it correctly and then just apply it to the completely wrong thing. What we need to do to support Christ is offer one thing: LOVE. How they can go from that to money etc. is beyond me.

  Jack x

  P.S. AGuest, I'm on the left :)
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  The parable of the sheep and the goats!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading again the parapble jesus spoke to his disciples about the sheep and goats.

  when i read it, it was plain and simple in my eyes.. 34 then the king will say to those on his right, come, you who have been blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.

  35 for i became hungry and you gave me something to eat; i got thirsty and you gave me something to drink.

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  Jackals

  I would be interested to know what the watch towers defence would be in interpretting the parable in this way. Do they have any evidence to back up their claims??

  Jack x
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  The parable of the sheep and the goats!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading again the parapble jesus spoke to his disciples about the sheep and goats.

  when i read it, it was plain and simple in my eyes.. 34 then the king will say to those on his right, come, you who have been blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.

  35 for i became hungry and you gave me something to eat; i got thirsty and you gave me something to drink.

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  Jackals

  My understanding is that we are expected to treat others with love and respect unconditionally, regardless of who is on the receiving end. It is not our place to judge others, if we are in a position to offer love and help, then offer it. There is no need to think beyond that when it comes to helping others.

  To interpret this parable as referring to "spiritual brothers" kind of defeats the purpose of the parable in my eyes. Is it not of greatest importance to offer support to those in the greatest need? To me that would be the un-spiritual, the sinners, etc. The Jesus that I know would definitely reach out to those people and expect us to follow suit.

  Jack x
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  Is the panic button about to be officialy pushed? :D

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tonight i was invited out by some jw friends.

  i dont mind hanging out every now and then with them at all as long as they dont start bugging me about why im no longer going to meetings or on the the ministry.

  anyway... guess what one of them started to do???.

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  Jackals

  It's funny because they'll push this imaginary panic button and try to coerce you back..then when they find out you're gay a new panic button will be pressed and they'll be pushing you out! So bizarre! Just let them do whatever they want to do and carry on with your life :D It seems to be working for you so far

  Love,

  Jack x
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  Another Video attempt - my introduction

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwaj_gbr-uc.

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  Jackals

  Very interesting video - thanks for sharing :D

  Jack
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  I'm new to the whole JW religion - Can someone please explain the basics?

  by Jackals in

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  i recently began a wonderful relationship with a guy who also happened to be a jw.

  i have learned alot about him and how the religion effects his life and now i am interested in learning more about the religion - but from a beginners' point of view.

  could anyone give me an idea of the basic beliefs and practices of jws?.

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  Jackals

  Thanks Nugget - Whilst I know Tim is putting plans in place to leave the JWs at some point, I still thought it would be useful for me to understand what he's been living for the past 23 years. I'm under no illusion that it'll be an easy or quick process, I felt it best to educate myself about the organisation.

  Jack