I used to think that femininity had to do with oestrogen levels. Now, I'm not so sure. I have two teenage daughters. Both of them, of course (like their father!) are good looking! However, they both, like me, have quite hairy arms. The older girl has the hairiest arms (presumably more testosterone in the body?), but she is a lot more what is perceived in the traditional view as 'feminine' both physically and in manner. My other daughter is less hairy and more 'masculine' (according to the traditional view) in frame and demeanor.
It seems to me that there is a great variety of form and character where women are concerned, which is good because there are also a great variety in form and character where men are concerned. There is plenty of variety to choose from depending on what you find attractive, so everyone wins! Personally, I'm attracted (don't tell my wife!) to the type of woman who falls somewhere in the middle 'range'. For instance, my wife is not your average wide-hipped, large breasted woman that seems to be the male ideal - sort of inbetween. But she has beautiful skin and hair, two of the most attractive features to me. Anyway, I'll say no more, as I don't want to get into this fight:
"A passerby who gets embroiled in someone else's quarrel is like one who seizes a dog by the ears." - Proverbs 26:17 (Tanakh - JPS)
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Where are the Feminine women?
by 4skins insome months ago i took my annual vacation to the land of kangaroos--you know--where men are men and sheep are skittish?
as a social commentator i have a vested interest observing cultural changes and trends, etc.
in the professions and trades in oz the genders dress as androgynous as their counterparts in the us.
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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LABD: It is sometimes assumed that Classical Greek is in some major way quite different from Koine Greek, but this is not so. It would be no more difficult for a Classical Greek scholar to translate Koine Greek than it would be for a British person to understand American English. I know at least one Classical Greek course that includes translation of Koine Greek (i.e. extracts from the New Testament) as part of the exercises.
(Edited to correct grammar!)Edited by - NewWay on 30 July 2002 14:50:36
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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Notwithstanding Jan's quote, it is nevertheless of note what Raymond Franz said in "Crisis Of Conscience" (Third Edition, page 54, footnote 16):
"The New World Translation bears no translator's name and is presented as the anonymous work of the 'New World Translation Committee.' Other members of that committee were Nathan Knorr, Albert Schroeder and George Gangas. Fred Franz, however, was the only one with sufficient knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years at the University of Cincinnati but was only self-taught in Hebrew." -
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Why are people racist?
by MrMoe insomething on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
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My view is that the problem, at least today, may have more to do with culture than anything else. I ask that anyone reading this post take it in the spirit in which it is written, that is with a genuine concern for good relations and understanding of what may sometimes be seen as 'racist'.
While many of us may honestly, with hand on heart, say we are not racist - in the sense of reacting to people based on skin colour or racial descent - we may still be anti-culture. The reason for this, of course, is that certain aspects of another person's culture may bring severe irritation to us.
For instance, if we have been brought up in a culture that places emphasis on a quiet gentle approach to life, then naturally we are going to be disturbed by someone who comes to live in the neighbourhood whose approach to life is very noisy. It's called culture shock. Now it may be easy to say that we should be 'accommodating' towards that person, but in actual practise it is very difficult, because our cultural feelings are deep-rooted. It is not a case of hatred for the person, but a negative reaction to the manifestation of their own culture. In some cases a person's aspects of a person's culture (including language) may have detrimental effects towards others in the larger cultural environment.
Recently I read in a national newpaper that a British surgeon had had to stop an operation because some of the 'foreign' theatre staff could not understand instructions given. About a year ago, someone in the medical profession publicaly warned of possible problems in healthcare, the reason being that some non-native doctors and consultants in hospitals couldn't always be understood by either patients or other medical staff. Would you believe that these two native Britons were called racist? It has got to the point now that one has to be very careful what one says in case one is labelled 'racist'. It seems that those who pioneered the way to better relations between people of different ethnic/racial roots have been hijacked by a new generation who want to use this hard-earned diplomatic victory as a psychological weapon to demand more and more 'rights', which in the process creates a new kind of racism. Some minorities are only so in number, but not in strength or persuasive powers. So much for the saying, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do"!
Unfortunately, it is common to 'judge' a race/ethnic/religious group by what they appear to be/do in our own small world. Sometimes this is a false perception, but sometimes it is true. When I was at one school I witnessed absolute racism, based on the colour of one's skin, not culture. I could never approve of this, because to me the Asian people to whom it was directed were an asset to this country. It has been said many times by native people here that they were (and may well still be) the hardest working national group in Britain. They were people who lived a quiet life, and as a group did not harm members of their host country. They accepted that this country had a culture of its own and they respected that. At that time then I could honestly say that their was a lot of racism about. Although it took time, the Asian and indeed the Black community gradually became more and more integrated into Britain. Many of those who at first had reservations about these 'foreigners' gradually accepted them as fully British, but this was on the basis of their actually becoming British by culture.
I perceived that a change was made from racism to anti-culturism when younger generations wanting to get back to their racial/cultural roots started insisting on promoting their racial culture within Britain. In some parts of the land there are what almost amount to mini-countries. There is much concern now - due to things like this and others such as the huge yearly influx of illegal immigrants - that this country is gradually having its cultural identity and population changed forever. Traditionally, the British people have tended not to complain and tried to be accommodating, but many now feel they've been disinherited from their own land due to their generosity of spirit. One could ask then, is anti-culturism in itself an bad thing. Most certainly, insulting and abusing people based on the basis of their race or even culture is wrong, but does that mean that one has to give up the right to protect one's own culture?
When diplomats from different countries meet in order to help settle the differences of antagonistic nations, it is not expected that those nations will give up aspects of their culture. What is most important for a diplomat is to search and find common ground, and to bring the nations into an understanding of one another. If each nation can understand how the other 'ticks' then this can help bring about peace. A good start to peace between members of different nations can be by getting those nations to respect each other's culture. On a more individual basis then, when members from one country visit another nation they should be prepared to modify their own behaviour for the duration of the visit, in accordance with what they know of the national culture. This is also applicable on a more local scale where people come from different social backgrounds. At the heart of all of this is respect for the other person, but for it to work well it must be a shared responsibility.
There is a saying which goes like this: "Birds of a feather flock together". People often choose their social companions and environment based upon mutual interests and values. The true racist is the one who looks down upon others who are not of his own race on the basis of country and physical racial features, not one who merely keeps separate because of cultural differences. Consider that a white man of British descent and a black man of African descent who were born in say, Iceland, may feel they have far more in common with each other by virtue their birth country's culture than members of their own race.
Notwithstanding my words on anti-culturism, it is my belief that hatred of people based purely on their skin colour or racial descent is patently illogical and serves no useful purpose in making this world a better place. It is an evil which history testifies as being the basis of so much inhumanity. -
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Repent NOW you sinners!
by pale recluse incan't wash yourselves clean in the blood of the lamb?
here's the next best thing!
instantly wash away your sins with new repent!
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I agree with Casseline, but I do think we would need to send the 'industrial strength' version for it to even have a tiny effect!
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How do you when your anointed?
by haujobbz ini had always been puzzled by this, how jws know there of the so called anointed class, i mean there not born anointed supposedly they know by means of holy spirit lol!!!!.
its then there word against yours, i mean we could all end up saying we were anointed then what would happen, probably you would be told off by the elders or maybe they just wouldnt believe you,and why because they might think if "more say their anointed" the end wont come in there lifetime.
guess what im starting to think im anointed!!!!!!!!
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"By there fruits you will recognise them"? One would certainly expect the fruitage of the Spirit.
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WT 15 June - Approves of Internet?
by Nemesis ini just noticed this in the latest mags (15 june, 2002, see picture below) on the top box: if we want .
a concordance to the bible, we can find no better than the internet.. im just wondering if this will lead more witnesses to indulge in some web surfing, with the inevitable consequences of them coming across some critical matter?
lets hope so!
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If ever there was a way of getting help outside of the Bible in order to understand it better, getting aquainted with the original languages would be the most important. The reason is quite obvious when one thinks about it. Words and phrases translated into a modern language from an ancient one cannot always convey the exact meaning. We know within the English language that the same word can have a different shade of meaning depending upon the context in which it is used. For instance the word 'reckon' is firstly described in my dictionary as "count or compute by calculation", but when I say "I reckon", I generally mean "in my opinion", or "I think". Looking up meanings of Greek/Hebrew words in certain scriptures can be quite eye-opening!
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Who am I again part 2
by Bleep inhere are most comments even after i said no name was provided for my quote.
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Bleep: I think it would help if you were more open in telling us 'who' you are and what your intentions are. By that I mean give some indication as to how you view yourself spiritually, and the purpose of your visits here - what do you wish to accomplish?
You know by now that with some people here your very presence will generate animosity. Maybe if you are very careful not to write anything that could be seen as antagonistic, dogmatic, and/or 'preachy', you will win some respect from a number of people. I don't believe you will have a completely stress-free existence on this board, so you will have to be prepared for those who, no matter how carefully you choose your words, will continue to verbally abuse you and engage in put downs. Another thing to remember is that not everyone here even claims to be a Christian, so the responses you get from some people would be the same that you would get from some people you meet in the door-to-door work.
I feel certain that there are a number here who are willing to accept you as a respected member as long as they see evidence for a time that your posts are reasonable. For some, of course, this may take some time. For others, as I have said, it will never happen. So be realistic. You have to think of your audience. This forum is pretty much anti-WTS, so you should be prepared. Obviously if your audience were made up of people who in general had had no connection with JWs, then you would probably find the experience of posting a much more pleasureable experience. But, here you will find it much harder. Please remember (and this applies to anyone no matter what 'side of the fence' they are) minds and hearts will probably not be won by verbal assaults and put-downs, nor by unreasonable responses to legitimate questions.
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Who am I again part 2
by Bleep inhere are most comments even after i said no name was provided for my quote.
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Just a short note. "Crisis Of Conscience" deals mainly with the inner workings of the organisation. It is Ray Franz' book "In Search Of Christian Freedom" that deals with doctrinal matters.
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Who am I again part 2
by Bleep inhere are most comments even after i said no name was provided for my quote.
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Bleep: You are a human being like the rest of us. That includes sadness, anger, protection of our deeply held beliefs, hurt over being verbally abused, etc. While I personally don't feel the urge to get involved in verbal assaults, I can understand the deep pain and anger that is rooted behind many responses in this way. Maybe this is not the place for you to be, or maybe it would be a good idea to give this forum a break for a while. Just a thought. Unfortunately for you and others in your current position, the majority here have set up their 'camp' in opposition to the WTS, so if you come across as wanting to stir up arguments, then you should not expect gentle responses from everyone.
As I'm an independent thinker and am not unduly swayed by what the majority think, I will pass on to you my hopes that you will find happier moments in the future, and whatever you do, you know that loyalty to God (Jehovah) is more important than anything else, including loyalty to a religious organisation. I would hope that like many of us who got baptized, yours was on the basis of a dedication to do God's will, not man's.
Kind regards.