Had a great laugh Cofty. The Op and Datadogs "off the coast of Nunya" really had me rolling...
xjwsrock
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Forgiving Loans the Watchtower Way
by cofty inbank - thank you for maintaining your loan repayments for the past 3 years.
to show our appreciation we are forgiving the balance of your loan.
borrower - yeah!.
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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in
by Black Man inhaving now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.
like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.
you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.
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Agreed... Especially considering they changed their tune after nothing visible happened. Convenient much?
It's a face-palm for sure.
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Give me 5 minutes to explain...
by pixel ini keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
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I actually talked my wife into having a discussion about some of the things that have been "bothering me". I went with the (ridiculous) scripture the whole "new light" crap comes from. I had her read the whole chapter in Proverbs and then tell me what she thought it was about. Thankfully she played along. She saw the obvious point that it was just contrasting a righteous person and a wicked person.
I then pointed out that this is the chapter where they get the teaching about "new light". She looked puzzled. I then pointed out the verse. She saw my point but said she would do some research.
I then said I have a problem with all the failed prophesies. Then I showed her that scripture in Deut. about how to determine a false prophet. She said, "Well you have something there, I have to admit it." Again, though she said she would do more research.
So that was my 5 minute episode (prob more like 15). My take on it is this. The stimulus of doubt probably can't come from outside the person. I think I planted some seeds, but nothing earth shattering.
It takes a person months of "studying" to become one. It takes at least that long to un-become one, I would say.
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It's real. Right off of Jdub dot org
I know ...it's unbelievable. Same crap different day. Obvious distraction technique to keep the r&f occupied while they downsize.
Lol...
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Notice the word "Student" is on the slip.
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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)
by Daniel1555 inthe following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
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Yeah they are doubling down on the control. It is a sign of desperation as has been pointed out.
They have painted themselves into a corner. When you proclaim that the almighty of the universe is backing you and you only, then "downsizing" (which is exactly what the organization is doing) is impossible to explain. Why the hell would God downsize? Because of their money and legal problems they are getting more criticism than ever. And lets face it, just about anybody can see the problems at this point. You don't have to drag out old books from a century ago to make an "apostate" point or win a debate. And all signs are that the problems are only going to get worse.
Less than a year ago we had a quick elders school (one day) and one of the main points was for elders to disfellowship quicker and reinstate slower. That is to get rid of dissent quickly and instill more fear by keeping the people that dared to disagree out even longer.
So they are doubling down on the bully tactics to preserve their hold on the flock. I don't think there is any stopping the downward spiral they are in at this point, though. But unfortunately they will try.... with medieval crap like this WT describes. In the foreseeable future they will increasingly act like a cult and thus will increasingly face criticism for being one.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave....
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Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures
by slimboyfat ini'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
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Faith in the Flood,-- a Dud.
by prologos infor the next two weeks, wt will attempt to lay the basis for their imitation "faith" by discussing the "imitate their faith" book, chapter on the flood.
a golden opportunity to share faith strengthening details with your believing friends.
do not miss it!.
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They should be waking up in their droves when they think about this subject. - Half banana
What's wrong with the above sentence? Lol....
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Mid - Week Meeting This Week
by xjwsrock inmillie210 posted this on another thread - i thought it deserved it's own op:.
i took an elderly friend to the meeting last night.
the study is in the "imitate their faith" book which is merely a compilation of previous short stories about bible characters that were featured in a series of watchtower articles.. they waste no time beginning their spinning and supposition with the cain/abel story.
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If the story were true then Jehovah invented swords. Thanks Jehovah! - Simon
Lol... Jehovah has always been about the war thing...doncha know.
The flame has gone out at HQ. No money in the bank therefore no holy spirit! No sparkle in the writing, just the same old tired re-heated and stale food from yesterday. - Half banana
So true - especially the stale food part. It's ugly out here in JWland.
