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  Reason of financial problems WTS

  by Gorbatchov in

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  a non-witness insider told me this week that the wts has financial problems.

  that lead to halting down their building plans and lay off the special pioneers and.

  bethelites.. the reason of the financial stagnation is beside some bad investments,.

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  It's a cash-flow thing.

  They have hundreds of millions, tied up in long-term investments (imo based on some of the areas where they have to report financials). When I say long-term investments, I mean 10 or more years till payoff. Things like annuities and such.

  They scream poverty, but they will never reveal how much they have tucked away. I guarantee you they didn't put their annuities and such up as collateral for the construction loans. Those loans are based on a certain cash-flow picture they promised to the banks.

  Jehovah didn't bless them as expected :) They refuse to collateralize their investments. So they have to deal with the banks shutting down a large portion of their projects.

  The WT complaining about money is like a rich person saying "I can't afford it". When a poor person says that, it means the poor person couldn't buy it if they wanted to. When a rich person says it, it just means they haven't budgeted for it or simply don't want it.
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  Brooklyn Bethel Tours Through The Roof

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was speaking with someone last night who just recently toured the us bethel's.

  the brooklyn tour i heard was awful, very limited and disappointing and conducted by a local pioneer and not even a bethelite.

  well from what they are telling the folks on the tour since the tm3 bit encouraging (guilting) people about going to disneyland on vacation when you haven't visited bethel, monthly tours went from 6000 to 16000!

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  whats the point AM3??

  Disney costs thousands to go to for a family. So he was targeting families with expendable income. He wants a 500.00 donation to take a pic with a cardboard Caleb cut-out.
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  Reason of financial problems WTS

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a non-witness insider told me this week that the wts has financial problems.

  that lead to halting down their building plans and lay off the special pioneers and.

  bethelites.. the reason of the financial stagnation is beside some bad investments,.

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  I also like what Sir82 said about big construction loans being held up because of financial risk assessed by the banks.

  Makes perfect sense. If Chase Manhattan tells them to stop construction immediately, they will stop. The next loan draft would be held up until they complyed.

  The WT will then tell the writing department to come up with some way to spin it to the sheeple.
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  Reason of financial problems WTS

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a non-witness insider told me this week that the wts has financial problems.

  that lead to halting down their building plans and lay off the special pioneers and.

  bethelites.. the reason of the financial stagnation is beside some bad investments,.

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  xjwsrock

  I will add though that in this internet age... secrets are harder to keep.
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  Disfellowshipping Sounds Wonderful to Me Now

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  2 people were read out last week as disfellowshipped.

  of course now the announcement is read "so and so is no longer one of jehovahs witnesses".

  they read that statement twice, once for each of the names.

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  Vidiot... interesting point. I think from time to time about something similar happening for me.

  If there is ever a child abuse case anywhere near me, I will jump on that like stank on poo. My wife would sympathize with the child immediately. I think these child cases "somewhere else" are a bit too abstract for my wife to see clearly. There is the little doubt about whether everyone is telling the truth or what have you. If she knew the child... it would be over. That's what I believe anyway.
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  Reduce the size of your family!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower organization resists the idea that its workforce is comprised of employees.

  instead it promotes the idea that these individuals comprise a family.

  yet recently there is a directive that smacks a totalitarian tendency.

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  It is a sad day when a member of the bethel "family" gets evicted and then realizes that the term "family" was nothing more than manipulative horse shit the whole time.

  This is especially sad for those that have no real family or friends and were using the WT as a surrogate.

  Just another fine example of the WT exploiting the weak and/or naive.
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  Bethel Layoffs In Australia Confirmed

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  yes, last week the number of bethel layoffs was confirmed from 90 to 125. .

  and those going in thinking they may be there for some time have been told.

  that they may be there for two months rather than 3 years depending on .

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  sparrowdown - "They act like a business but without any of the laws that are in place to protect employees of a business."

  
  I would add to sparrowdown's thought that they are also a business where only the business makes any money.

  At least a normal employee has a paycheck to show for his/her troubles.

  "May God bless you" is their paycheck. Oldest trick in the book.
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  Disfellowshipping Sounds Wonderful to Me Now

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  2 people were read out last week as disfellowshipped.

  of course now the announcement is read "so and so is no longer one of jehovahs witnesses".

  they read that statement twice, once for each of the names.

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  They were just names to me.
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  I Hate the Sound of the Word Jehovah

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  listening to clips of the latest manipulative video from the watchtower i realised how much i detest that word - jehovah.. sometimes i have thought it would be interesting to observe a meeting or part of a convention.

  every time i heard that word i would be unable to stay in my seat.. i have a visceral reaction every time i hear it.

  it stands for so much that i have contempt for.

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  I hate it now because I know it's their fake Pseudonym for Watchtower. Jehovah is a figure head.

  Put Jehovah first = Put WT first

  Draw close to Jehovah = Get more involved with WT

  Obey Jehovah = Obey WT leadership
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  CO in midwest gets pink-slipped

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.

  i was shocked but here it is.

  here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.

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  SBF- I know the Co and wife are on the health insurance and get the car with insurance etc from WT.