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  JW Broadcasting is the likely end of the road for JWs

  by oldskool in

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  i started leaving the group in 04', and quit following what they do around 08'.

  my recent posts express my reaction to what has happened since.. i just "tuned in" to the jw broadcasting episode for may 2016. it is worth a viewing.

  gb member anthony morris describes what is basically the thrust of why this entire effort exists.

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  They've gotten by with so little before (tools specifically for youth), it's hard to argue these videos aren't a step up.

  The truth is this org doesn't give a good damn about kids. Now they are showing an interest suddenly but purely for self serving reasons. The leadership sees them as future members (donars).

  The sudden interest in children (I thought JW's werent supposed to have them) is actually another sign of their desperation as oldskool pointed out in other threads.

  Their biggest problem by far is apostasy on the internet. Apostasy has led to stalled growth. So they are resorting to ramping up customer retention methods and winning back old customers (inactive).
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  What does the Armageddon Genocide Actually Accomplish?

  by xjwsrock in

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  why murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?

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  Why murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?
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  New Shunning Video - RC 2016

  by wifibandit in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20rww_-7ua.

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  They are desperate for control.

  Shameless what they are resorting to.

  This organization will continue to lose ground. There's no stopping it now. They have already peaked. But what will become of this shrinking cult in the coming years is an increasingly nasty insular entitled delusional fringe group. They are becoming more and more extreme.

  We all knew they were facing a choice. Were they going to become more mainstream or more cultish. They have officially chosen to become more cultish and controlling. They aren't even really trying to recruit anymore. It's about riding the current members to a grinding halt.
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  Critical Thinking-is that phrase a stigma?

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  2. friends

  when i first heard the term 'critical thinking' it was as a teenager during a watchtower study.

  the study went on to elaborate how we shouldn't be swayed by critical thinking.

  there was no explanation that the term didn't mean 'to criticize' thoughts and words, but rather that it means 'to objective think and to evaluate thoughts and words'.

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  Yeah I'm sure that was done on purpose. Confuse the terms.

  Paint critical thinking as a bad thing to be avoided. More BS mind control.

  I don't know of a good replacement term, though. I use the term "objective thinking" often and I bring up understanding "distinctions" between things. For instance, the distinction between Jehovah and the Watchtower, Bible, and Tract Society is a big one.

  That really is one of the big challenges. Introducing critical thinking to a JW who has been trained to not think critically and to swallow fallacy after fallacy. They also feel like thinking critically is questioning God. That is another hurdle. They need to apply critical thinking to that notion, lol...... It never ends!!!!!!
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  Part 2 - Waking Up With Jake & Steph Experience

  by jacobm in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i405e0vge0k.

  thanks for all the support!.

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  I like the point about getting the actual bound volume to show quotes.

  Isn't it crazy how trained Jehovah's Witnesses are to question the source instead of look at the actual information? It is a sleazy tactic to change the subject and vilify the source. They use terms like - Mentally diseased, twisted reasonings, table of demons ...etc. Fear fear fear...

  Anyhow, thanks for sharing..
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  disfellowshipped wife, husband still a jw

  by thereishope in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm new here and haven't introduced myself yet, but have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and learned so much!

  quick first question: if i get disfellowshipped for researching info on websites other than jw.org (the official website), how can i expect to be treated by my husband still in the truth?

  ie what will he be told by the elders about how to treat me?

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  I am not sure what your current beliefs are or how much of those you have shared with anyone including your husband. It's what you believe or no longer believe that can get you in trouble.

  Looking at websites is a slap on the wrist at best. What you would have to be careful about is how you answer their loyalty questions to see if you are an "apostate" or have "apostate ideas".
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  Stories From the Back Room

  by xjwsrock in

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  (i am still a serving elder.

  i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.

  timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.

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  wannaexit - I agree. Superstition is a good word for it too.

  stuckinarut - it is hard to believe the hold that indoctrination can have on a person. We all lived it and I see it in others, and honestly I still have a hard time believing it.

  Quarterback - What you describe is true. Unfortunately this often leads to a disfellowshipping because of the circumstances. Years ago I knew a young couple where the wife went to the elders because the husband was being physically abusive. The elders didn't believe her, probably because the brother was popular in that congregation. She eventually left him, cheated, and got disfellowshipped just to be done with it all. Sad.
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  Stories From the Back Room

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
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  (i am still a serving elder.

  i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.

  timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.

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  ToesUp,

  I would call her a 'sometimes' attender considered in good standing. The BOE see her as a good little witness victim of a jerk husband.

  The couple is upper middle age I would say ... It's not a case where the elders are goo goo for the young wife or anything... (that never happens of course.. lol)
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  Stories From the Back Room

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
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  (i am still a serving elder.

  i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.

  timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.

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  Joe - It's tough, believe me. You hear a culty statement sometimes every other sentence from the platform and in the back room the guys act like God is actually involved in their BS. At least I know it's all crap now.

  Millie - I wish there was some way to communicate to the awake ones at the hall. I could tell them I got their back. But there's no way to do that in reality. It would be a lucky break for awake people to find each other in a cong. Also I am hoping hard on the time factor. My wife is smart but she is slow sometimes to catch on to things. I know more and more the org will expose themselves. That combined with the seeds I have planted hopefully will lead to a happy ending.

  aintenoughwiskey - Lol... there are a lot of stories from back there, that's for sure...

  I think I'll get another bottle of Rye for later tonight in honor of your name
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  RUSSIA: Jehovah's Witnesses face possible liquidation

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2181.

  24 may 2016. russia: jehovah's witnesses face possible liquidation.

  by victoria arnold, forum 18. if prosecutors proceed with their threat to liquidate the jehovah's witness headquarters near st petersburg, thousands of local congregations across russia could also face prohibition of their activities and individuals could be vulnerable to criminal charges for expressing their beliefs, forum 18 notes.. the jehovah's witnesses' principal body in russia is under threat of dissolution as an "extremist" organisation after the deadline in an official warning from the general prosecutor's office expired on 10 may, forum 18 notes.

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  Don't use profanity, don't watch rated-R movies, don't play with magic toys, be nice to people.....

  Oh and... God is going to murder everyone in the Russian Government and everyone that supports that government. Also God will murder all people that go to other Russian churches...

  Ok Family Worship is over.... Let's have cookies