What LisaRose said^
An apostate is a bigger villain than Satan. Other "Sins" can be forgiven and the memory wiped clean in the magic new world.
Apostasy leads straight to the second death. Moooohahahahahaha...............
something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.
yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).
so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.
What LisaRose said^
An apostate is a bigger villain than Satan. Other "Sins" can be forgiven and the memory wiped clean in the magic new world.
Apostasy leads straight to the second death. Moooohahahahahaha...............
i was studying this fascinating composite graph of jw growth.
lots of interesting things there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses#/media/file%3ajwstats1931-2015.png.
My first thought also is WWII.
I can see someone going into a concentration camp great crowd and coming out annointed.
Other persons that had similiar nightmares no doubt had their own "spiritual experiences" that left them feeling closer to God.
There's no telling what their minds had to do to cope.
absolute obedience to watchtower cult leaders is only necessary because of coercion and intimidation and the duress of having the shun gun pointed at their head for those jw's who are now awake.
the threat is as real as that of a fully loaded pistol.. .
we are all aware of friends and family who are still inside the kingdom halls with very little actual conviction that they are in the truth.
In the Spanish side is quite easy to be 'awakened', inside and still be happy because we culturally speaking are very gregarious and fun-loving, always some type of a party and we have such a good time at those occasions.
It works for me, it just does. No need for pity here.
DY
Excellent point. In other words you have something to show for it other than the BS. Well from over here in Whiteville, it sucks. My congregation is nothing but drones that form cliques. Let's face it white people don't usually do anything fun besides get drunk and loud. JW's can't really do that much, so...... you are just left with boring, uneducated, stiff people that lack rhythm. LOL! .........( I'm white btw so I can poke fun)
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
sbf- LOL!
and there it is....
the question should be what are the consequences of resignation from wt answer is complete bullying no contact with familey your done you stupid idiot..
You can also jump off a cliff. Good luck with that choice too......
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poopie - you may enjoy this thread about it:
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
I've heard from inside family complain8ng that they find interested ones and set up a bible study then never hear from them again. I think they probably look up jws online and find places like this site and run for the hills. - EOM
I heard recently an elder's wife complaining quite vocally that she hasn't had a "stable" bible study in years. She also said she prays to Jehovah for a bible study that is actually a "normal" person.
I found it hilarious myself. It just shows how the borg is only attracting social misfits looking for a community.
What is bothersome though is that they don't listen to themselves when they speak. What does it mean that only people with mental/emotional problems are attracted to your religion? I mean come on.......
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
Of course we are all interested in what will happen with Australia in the coming years. I think we can expect lower and lower numbers going forward there and New Zealand as well.
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
I have a hunch that at some point they may actually try to thin the herd.
Their business consultants may point to a lowered membership as equaling a lowered overhead. Less printing,more opportunity for congregation consolidation and property selling etc etc.
They can spin it as a "cleansing" of Jehovah's house. Lol
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
It won't be obvious until they report reduced numbers and that won't even sink in immediately. Jws are so used to avoiding reality. Maybe thats when they change their message to judgement as a distraction.
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
It is slowly dwindling.
Unless assets are seized they can live off their property for the rest of our lives.
Last report was 85,000 properties worldwide. That's billions in assets.