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  How Cultish are the JW's?

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first off, i certainly agree the jw's are a cult.

  but i'm sensitive to black-and-white thinking now.. so, where do they rank on the scale?

  think of a cultish religion scale from 0-10.. consider the likes of unitarian universalism vs baptist vs amish vs charles manson.. where do you think jw's fall on the scale?.

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  I agree with much of what you guys/gals are saying. I look at the thought-stopping and other blatant manipulation in the JW's. The willingness to let members kill themselves over their half-wit interpretation of 2000 year old scripture (blood). OrphanCrow I haven't thought of the org like that, but you're right. They really are a subtle version of the suicide cults. That's a sobering thought.

  I guess I see the Amish and other heavily isolated crazies as being 9's on the scale. The Charles Mansons, Jonestowns of the world are the 10's. So JW's would be an 8 to me (same as OTWO). Control is high but immediate physical danger lower than the groups further up the chain.

  Mormons like 7.5

  Scientology 8.5
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  Scale of 1 to 10. How did/do you rate the meetings!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. social
  2. humour

  1. boring as s***e 2. extremely boring 3. boring as hell 4. boring.

  5. slightly boring 6. not bad.

  7. fair.

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  I'm with Cofty. After learning ttatt, the meetings aren't boring, you sit there is disbelief.

  They literally meet multiple times a week to tell each other their wishes will come true.
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  You need to marry a ministerial Servant!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a single sister in her 40s and her two single daughters were visiting my mom.

  i would say her daughters are in their early 20s.

  my mom got sleepy and we put her to bed but the three sisters stayed to finish their drinks..

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  Sabin - Personally I think they have absolutely no respect for the marriage arrangement at all.

  I agree and even less respect for women. They are basically saying that the Servant Body should have their choice of a mate within the congregation. "Man's helper" -doncha know. They want the 1950's forever.
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  Alternative 10 Commandments - Commandment #10

  by TTATTelder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i stumbled on this wikipedia page giving alternative 10 commandments:.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/alternatives_to_the_ten_commandments.

  this was #10 on a list by bertrand russell (british philosopher 1872-1970).

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  Good Stuff ...
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  How Cultish are the JW's?

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first off, i certainly agree the jw's are a cult.

  but i'm sensitive to black-and-white thinking now.. so, where do they rank on the scale?

  think of a cultish religion scale from 0-10.. consider the likes of unitarian universalism vs baptist vs amish vs charles manson.. where do you think jw's fall on the scale?.

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  xjwsrock

  First off, I certainly agree the JW's are a cult. But I'm sensitive to black-and-white thinking now.

  So, where do they rank on the scale? Think of a Cultish Religion scale from 0-10.

  Consider the likes of Unitarian Universalism vs Baptist vs Amish vs Charles Manson.

  Where do you think JW's fall on the scale?
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  8/15 Study Edition

  pg 24
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  I swear you can predict the outline of this stuff.

  It's a broken record.
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Yes this WT study was atrocious.

  • 1914 referred to as a biblical fact as the start of the last days.
  • warning against bad association inside the congregation (they know about us lol)
  • Solomon referenced as a person who suffered from bad associates among his 1000 wives and concubines - no mention of the fact that having 1000 wives and concubines is immoral and illegal today in any western society
  • They had to bring up Noah at the end to throw a death threat in the mix (stick)
  • Last sentence throws out the carrot of the New World
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  If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. social
  2. humour

  do the lottery.

  celebrate my child's birthday.

  sign workmates birthday cards.

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  I do not put "Kingdom Interests" first

  and I never will...
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  the problem with you, apostates, is that your doubts were not genuine

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in page 10 of the correspondence guidelines, in the section of apostasy" i found the following:.

  one who has sincere doubts orquestions should be kindly aided inthe spirit of galatians.... i am forced to conclude that many of you didn't get any aid because your doubts were fake.

  so according to the wt manual, your main sin may have not been doubting, but faking having doubts.

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  Good points khaleesi, they don't have any patience for independent thoughts or doubts that can't be handled in like 5 minutes and never mentioned again.