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  Our thoughts on the latest JW Broadcast for the month of May

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  howdy guys!

  this is our latest video on the jw broadcast in short form.

  we talk about jw marriage challenges.

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  Funny. So true too.

  The lack of charity in JW land is inexcusable.
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  There are two cart witnesses outside of my office window - Faneuil Hall in Boston - should I approach them?

  by Billzfan23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i asked a couple of them farther up the street by north station if they had ever seen beth sarim - and that they should look it up...for some interesting facts about their history.. .

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  Beth-Sarim is in the Proclaimers book on page 76. (JW's still don't know about it)

  ARC is a good topic and more current.

  JW's can easily write off the old crazy stuff from the black-and-white picture days. GB member lying in court on youtube is pretty damning. Cognitive Dissonance for days! Lol........
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  Stay in the Boat

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  interesting video from the mormans.... it sounds so much like a witness illustration!.

  https://www.lds.org/youth/video/stay-in-the-boat?lang=eng .

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  In my opinion the Mormons have a lot more to offer than JWs do. They make JWs look like amateurs. Business, college education, politics, community, charity.

  Jws are full of poor, uneducated misfits that are waiting for the New World to be their communist equalizer. In the meantime they take antidepressants and mumble kingdom songs.
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  Helping my family see the truth about 'the truth'

  by Stella3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first time joining a forum like this.

  i grew up in the jw religion.

  i was baptized when i was 13 and started to fade out at 16 at least mentally.

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  Freddo - Thanks and I appreciate the support!

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  Giordano - great post - walking daily and letting your mind settle can be a powerful tool
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  Well, they came again. Really this time an Elder.

  by rebelfighter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.

  don't these people have a job to go to?

  it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.

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  Well sounds like you kicked some elder ass, lol. Good for you.
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  Building 500 new kingdom halls?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wtbts has to know they aren't actually going to see their numbers significantly jump anytime soon/ever right?

  are they planning on cutting the rbc down to 1/10th the work force so they can actually slow down their kh projects instead of increasing them?

  or do they think their little website scheme is actually going to bring in more people?.

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  They aren't allowed to say boo. They aren't allowed to look behind the curtain.

  Here is a theory. Maybe the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Just for sake of argument, let's say the board of directors is awake and the GB are the delusional ones. The GB comes up with this building extravaganza expecting God to swoop in and bless the project because they prayed together and are the chosen ones. The board meanwhile is telling them they are nut jobs and the company is already losing money.

  Anyway, the GB win out and launch this LDC bologna. 9 months later money is pouring out on construction and the same trickle is coming in like before. In other words they are hemorrhaging money. The board shuts them down. GB are left to deal with reality and embarrassment.

  They proceed with PR damage control and here we are. Just a theory...
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  My brother died last night

  by LisaRose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

  it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

  there were six of us, now only four.

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  Sorry for your loss. Much love to you.
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  Helping my family see the truth about 'the truth'

  by Stella3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first time joining a forum like this.

  i grew up in the jw religion.

  i was baptized when i was 13 and started to fade out at 16 at least mentally.

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  Stella3,

  In response to your above post. I have said the following to witnesses and it moved the needle a bit.

  "When your religion leads you to believe that you would be better off dead, then I think we can safely say that your religion has failed you."

  Many Many Many Jehovah's Witnesses have come to that conclusion (better off dead). Some have even acted on it.
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  Helping my family see the truth about 'the truth'

  by Stella3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first time joining a forum like this.

  i grew up in the jw religion.

  i was baptized when i was 13 and started to fade out at 16 at least mentally.

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  My two cents...

  I am an awake elder that started learning ttatt 3 or 4 years ago. I still serve because my stepping down at this point would send alarm bells to a few people I said too much to (like my wife). Plus it buys me protection from the other elders for now.

  Anyway, to answer your question, I have recently as of yesterday had a conversation about the "truth" with a long time friend. I didn't say too much hopefully, but got close to the line with him. He is full in but not a servant.

  My conclusion after that conversation and observing his reactions to things that came up, is that the attachment to the religion and the ideology is emotional. That point has been made already in the previous posts. I would add two things.

  1) The reason you can't predict what will awaken someone is that you can't know what emotions specifically that person has for the religion. Emotion is nuts. It is unpredictable. For instance, if you found out your friend's spouse was cheating and then you told him or her, they might refuse to believe it and blame you for trying to wreck their marriage! Same with someone's religion. They are "married" to the organization. You are telling them the org has cheated on them. It can and often does get nasty.....

  2) Since we are dealing with emotion, I think the best bet to move emotion is for a person to come to find out things about the org that are emotional for them to find out.

  For instance the procedure for dealing with an 8 year old boy that gets molested in the congregation by his father. If the father denies it and there are no witnesses, the org does nothing to protect that poor little boy. No cops are called. No social services are called. No judicial hearing. Just a note in a file. 8 year old boy goes back home with a molester. Siblings aren't protected. Children in congregation aren't protected. Children in community aren't protected. All the while, the child thinks Jehovah is going to help him now since he prayed and went to the elders instead of his "worldly" teacher at school.

  Anyhow, sorry to get long winded. Good luck with your family. I am working on a scheme myself to get info to my wife in some way that does not link back to me. Haven't figured it out yet, though. I tried the direct approach a few times and got backlash like I am the Devil himself. Freaky stuff actually.
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  I cringe when I think about the talks I gave.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you brothers who gave talks do you thinks about the crap you spoke from the platform.. thirty years old, no knowledge what so ever of the world we live in, barely making the grade.

  to graduate from high school, a year and half in jc college and now with schooling of jw higher.

  education i thought i was a hell of a speaker.

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  Yeah I would really speak with conviction from the platform. I would wonder though, as I noticed some of the reaction in the audience, why weren't more people moved by what I was saying? I was talking about our love for God and how lives were involved yada yada. Now I know...

  Now I think back and feel sympathy for the "awake" people in the audience or the exhausted people that had to deal with all my idealistic preachiness.

  I hate those young know-it-all idiots now.