Posts by mensa163

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Jesus and the greys

by mensa163 in

jesus and the greys.....my comment may skip out to outer space but after further study it does seem to have some merits and some basis in scripture.

i am wondering if anyone has come across this and your opinions please.. chuck missler and mark eastman (both devout christians) have a theory that possibly satan and the demons will visit earth in the form of aliens from outer space.

most of the world is expecting such an event anyway and would this not be a perfect opportunity for satan to convince the world that he is in charge of the universe and is "god".. some of the scriptures they use are based in the old testament writings such as the nephelim and "the sons of god" who married women on earth and had offspring.....this was one reason for the flood,,,,to destroy these people.. in the new testament satan will come using all kinds of counterfit miracles, signs and wonders, it also says that the secret power of lawnessnes is at work now (ufo & alien sightings???

mensa163

neyank
You are right about the group expecting UFO encounters. I think the call themselves "Raeleans" or something like that. I read the founders original book from the 1970's where he claimed to have gone to the mountains (France or Switzerland) and talked to the occupants of a spaceship and they instructed him to build a huge house to accomadate thier next visit to earth.
Reading his book it was obviously an amature attempt to raise money for a beautiful house for himself. There must still be a lot of suckers in the world because today he has a large following. Right now he has been working out of Montreal Canada and has wealthy people funding research on cloning and are attempting to be the first to do a human clone. Canadian television did a documentary on his religion and genetic work. I always wondered , if the Shroud of Turin is the actual burial cloth of Jesus, could someone take a DNA sample of the blood and maybe clone Jesus. Or if Jesus was God come as a man, what would his DNA look like compared to regular mankind. All kind of neat possibilities eh!!

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How many Saviors

by mensa163 in

hopefully a learned jw can answer this for me.. i have many jw friends & attended a couple of meetings.. one friend dropped by every month or so handing out pamphlets etc.

and we enjoyed the visits.

one saturday i asked him who was savior and he said jesus.

mensa163

lark
A bit ironic you suggested I move from the main forum to this one for my bible questions and after I did so you wonder why I am not back in the main forum. Nevertheless I'm glad you found me and I will give you my slant on Martin Sheen and the mathematics of Noahs Ark.

I personally do not care much about Mr. Sheen's home town etc. I do know he is deep into the occult based on a 1/2 hour TV show he was interviewed on called "Walking after Midnight" In his own words he described his relationship with demons and powerful dark spirits.
I also know Martin Sheen is one of those goody-goody Hollywood types who attaches some type of ribbon to his lapel and goes on a crusade to save all the forests of California to preserve the nest of one spotted owl. The next week he is filming his race car scene on southern beaches of California. In order to achieve the dramatic effect of the spped of the car, the film producers spread corn on the beach to attract the seagulls. Then the car races past and the birds scatter and makes for great film effects. The problem is a few are killed each time and after several takes the beach is littered with dead seagulls. This sums up Martin Sheens love of birds, he is a hypocrite at best and a liar at worst. He walks with the devil and is proud of it.

Noahs Ark numbers. Here is my quick look at the size and logistics of the ark. The measurements given are 450 feet by 75 feet gives 33,750 square feet minimum.
At 45 feet high there could be up to four 10 foot levels giving 135,000 square feet useable area. A modern livestock barn with
53,000 square feet holds 4000 pigs (an average sized animal) Using these numbers , the ark could easily hold 10,000 animals. I do not know how many pairs of animals there are on earth, how they fit into the ark or how God led them inside.What do you think lark. As far as food, I suppose God could have put the animals into a semi- hibernation mode to reduce the food requirements.

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How many Saviors

by mensa163 in

hopefully a learned jw can answer this for me.. i have many jw friends & attended a couple of meetings.. one friend dropped by every month or so handing out pamphlets etc.

and we enjoyed the visits.

one saturday i asked him who was savior and he said jesus.

mensa163

One week later and I wait patiently for a reply.
Are there no experienced JW's who read this page. A non-reply does'nt look good for the organization
Thank you
mensa163

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Jesus and the greys

by mensa163 in

jesus and the greys.....my comment may skip out to outer space but after further study it does seem to have some merits and some basis in scripture.

i am wondering if anyone has come across this and your opinions please.. chuck missler and mark eastman (both devout christians) have a theory that possibly satan and the demons will visit earth in the form of aliens from outer space.

most of the world is expecting such an event anyway and would this not be a perfect opportunity for satan to convince the world that he is in charge of the universe and is "god".. some of the scriptures they use are based in the old testament writings such as the nephelim and "the sons of god" who married women on earth and had offspring.....this was one reason for the flood,,,,to destroy these people.. in the new testament satan will come using all kinds of counterfit miracles, signs and wonders, it also says that the secret power of lawnessnes is at work now (ufo & alien sightings???

mensa163

I will add a bit more to my original comment on the "alien" slant

Jesus was an extra-terrestial (not of this earth)
God is an extraterrestial(not of this earth)
The angels who appear are extra-terrestial(not of this earth)
Satan & the demons are extra-terrestial(not of this earth)

When the angels appear to man they are often described ar powerful and with beauty.
When demons or aliens are described it is ugly, putrid, stench, reptillion, etc.
I have been listening to too much Art Bell....!!!!!!!

I sure hope Jesus will forgive my terminology used here

mensa163

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Jesus and the greys

by mensa163 in

jesus and the greys.....my comment may skip out to outer space but after further study it does seem to have some merits and some basis in scripture.

i am wondering if anyone has come across this and your opinions please.. chuck missler and mark eastman (both devout christians) have a theory that possibly satan and the demons will visit earth in the form of aliens from outer space.

most of the world is expecting such an event anyway and would this not be a perfect opportunity for satan to convince the world that he is in charge of the universe and is "god".. some of the scriptures they use are based in the old testament writings such as the nephelim and "the sons of god" who married women on earth and had offspring.....this was one reason for the flood,,,,to destroy these people.. in the new testament satan will come using all kinds of counterfit miracles, signs and wonders, it also says that the secret power of lawnessnes is at work now (ufo & alien sightings???

mensa163

Jesus and the greys.....my comment may skip out to outer space but after further study it does seem to have some merits and some basis in scripture. I am wondering if anyone has come across this and your opinions please.

Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman (both devout Christians) have a theory that possibly satan and the demons will visit earth in the form of aliens from outer space. Most of the world is expecting such an event anyway and would this not be a perfect opportunity for satan to convince the world that he is in charge of the universe and is "god".

Some of the scriptures they use are based in the Old Testament writings such as the Nephelim and "the sons of god" who married women on earth and had offspring.....this was one reason for the flood,,,,to destroy these people.

In the new testament satan will come using all kinds of counterfit miracles, signs and wonders, It also says that the secret power of lawnessnes is at work now (UFO & Alien sightings???) A good area for descriptions of the coming of satan is 2:THESS. chapter 2

I am not a UFO fan but often have wondered how satan could fool mankind on short notice during his coming and this looks like a possibile method considering most people are partly "expecting aliens" anyway. Also in Thessalonians it says God will send a powerful delusion so that they (non-christians) will believe the lie

Have any of you considered this possibility?? I know the whole idea is kind of a stretch, but I welcome other brief opinions. Mensa163

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THOUGHT PROVOKING QUESTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!

by d0rkyd00d in

i printed these questions from a website long ago, and loved them to death cuz they freed me from that god-forsaken religion.

i challenge any witness to answer all of them in their entirety, since the true religion stands against all falsehood.

please note that these are from scriptures in the new world translation, used by jehovah's witnesses.

mensa163

dorkydood
When you have time you should add this to your list:
It is a question based on HOSEA 13:4
I am the LORD your GOD
who brought you out of Egypt
You shall acknowledge NO GOD BUT ME
NO SAVIOR except ME

according to watchtower teachings Jesus was "a god"...if this was true we must not acknowlege him according to the above instructions from Jehovah himself.

also if Jesus is savior and Jehovah is savior they must be one and the same according to the above verse. JW's have never answered this satisfactorly for me.

I sure like your series of questions....keep it up

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What Do Un-Believers Not Believe?

by mensa163 in

one of the things that used to annoy me in the new testament was the "believe in jesus" message.

any explainations seemed fuzzy at best so i decided to take a run at it from behind and find the definintion of an un-believer.here is what i came up with and i welcome other opinions.

many of the people around jesus were jews, they walked with him, talked with him, listened to his teachings and witnessed his miracles.

mensa163

carmel
My beliefs about Jesus remain strong no matter what the scientists discover about our universe. Especially during the endtimes we are told about a powerful delusion that God himself will send to the non-believers so that they will absolutely believe the lie. Thus it appears we may expect many things to challenge our faith. As far as the universe, I guess it is quite possible we are indeed just a tiny portion out on the edge, I also accept the possibility of other creations or life forms could exist but in the meantime the bible concentrates its message to us regarding earth as we know it and we should stick to that for now

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The Complete Bible in One Paragraph

by mensa163 in

all the holy angels, fallen angels, & demons live for eternity.. the problems started in the spirit world (the rebellion) resulting in good/fallen angels.. it was after this man was created.. mankind is influenced by both good and evil and can choose.. the contest is in the spirit world , man is the prize.. the souls of mankind also live for eternity.. when the contest is over god tallies up the results.. some are assigned to be locked up for eternity with satan.. the rest spend eternity with god and jesus.. god does this to show his infinite wisdom, love, and justice to the spirit world.. mankind is the only area forgivness is exercised.. pick a specific area and i will back it up with scripture.

mensa163

pomegranite
When I first saw your long reply my first thought was 'Oh No" somebody has typed out half the bible here. Once I started reading I was hooked and have re-read it twice already. I am even going to print out a permanent copy to keep. I was expecting everybody to pick apart my one paragraph summary. Instead , you have contributed a much better summary that borders on excellence. Did you sit down and just type this out in your own words? If you did, you are truly gifted and should be in the pamphlet or book writing business. I have never heard this subject explained so well. Thank you
mensa163

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Satan...Why wasn't he destroyed right AWAY??

by pomegranate in

that was my first question to god.. why?.

does anybody have any understanding on this question?.

pomegranate

mensa163

Pomegranate
Excellent question.
You will find the answer in Bible studies topic: ""The Complete Bible in One Paragraph""
Let me know what you think

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The Complete Bible in One Paragraph

by mensa163 in

all the holy angels, fallen angels, & demons live for eternity.. the problems started in the spirit world (the rebellion) resulting in good/fallen angels.. it was after this man was created.. mankind is influenced by both good and evil and can choose.. the contest is in the spirit world , man is the prize.. the souls of mankind also live for eternity.. when the contest is over god tallies up the results.. some are assigned to be locked up for eternity with satan.. the rest spend eternity with god and jesus.. god does this to show his infinite wisdom, love, and justice to the spirit world.. mankind is the only area forgivness is exercised.. pick a specific area and i will back it up with scripture.

mensa163

All the Holy angels, fallen angels, & demons live for eternity.
The problems started in the spirit world (the rebellion) resulting in good/fallen angels.
It was after this man was created.
Mankind is influenced by both good and evil and can choose.
The contest is in the spirit world , man is the prize.
The souls of mankind also live for eternity.
When the contest is over God tallies up the results.
Some are assigned to be locked up for eternity with satan.
The rest spend eternity with God and Jesus.
God does this to show his infinite wisdom, love, and justice to the spirit world.
Mankind is the only area forgivness is exercised.

Pick a specific area and I will back it up with scripture.