Posts by snare&racket

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Proof of a Kingdom Hall being sold to a church!

by Sittingstraight1212 in

it cracks me up if you bring this subject up to a witness , they always try to convince themselves that i'm reading into this!!!.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqwknq31ie&feature=youtube_gdata_player.

Jw's: Who do you identify as the FDS?

by snare&racket in

who do you think is the fds on earth today?.

barely any jw can point at a gb member by face, fewer can name the governing body, fewer know these men in person or can account for them as people.

not one person became a jw from reading matthew 24 and saying 'aha!'.

snare&racket

Doh......

clarity, next time please announce at the start [SPOILER ALERT]

:P

snare x

occasionaly I write threads for anon JW's who come by via google....

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Jw's: Who do you identify as the FDS?

by snare&racket in

who do you think is the fds on earth today?.

barely any jw can point at a gb member by face, fewer can name the governing body, fewer know these men in person or can account for them as people.

not one person became a jw from reading matthew 24 and saying 'aha!'.

snare&racket

Who do you think is the FDS on earth today?

Barely any JW can point at a GB member by face, fewer can name the governing body, fewer know these men in person or can account for them as people. Most JW's also do not even know who the fds is according to latest doctrine, most unaware of even a change in teaching.

So, despite neither knowing the doctrine or the individuals even by name...... It is a disfellowshipping offence to say you are unsure, or you dont know who exactly the FDS are in 2013. This is absurd, negligent, ignorant and lazy! Subjecting yourself and your fsmily to an authority you cant explain ant to individuals you cant name. JW's acceptt this with a shrug of the shoulders , something any normal person/ parent would balk at!

Concerning MATT 24 v 45 etc it is an illustration of a farmer leaving his farm fo be looked after. A good slave will be faithful and work hard while he is away and the evil slave will be lazy, get drunk and put off the masters return. That's all it says.

The only people in 2013 who see these verses and insist that there is a hidden message of prophecy describing 8 men in brooklyn are ......the 8 men in Broklyn! [alarm bells] Do you read those versee and see that Prophecy/message? Why not? How do they?

The same men believe this verse gives them the authority to declare themselves spokespersons of god, a 'divine channel'.

The same people claim this verse gives them the right to demand submission, respect and obediance as they are a divine inspired authority.

The same people use this verse to give themsleves the authority to punish followers on gods behalf!

.........all THIS from one verse in matthew about good and bad slaves..... .!?!?

It gets worse.......the 8 men who have decided this verse refers to themselves can only be appointed through vote and private invite by themselves! So, you are told you are FDS by the FDS and invited to the FDS by the FDS! No matter who you are, anyone reading matthew can see this does not fit the illustration or the account, this whole arrangement has been invented outside of those verses. By who and by what authority? Can they be 100% right on this matter? Considering the multiple changes of who the FDS is and even one member of the fds being disfellowshipped (Ray Franz) how is it ok to disfellowship people whi don'tt otally submit to it?

So basically If you publiclly disagree/doubt/question/ sincerely believe that Jesus' illustration about good slaves and bad slaves may not have been describing 8 men you can't even name.....yeah thats right you will be disfelowshipped.

WOULD ANYONE READING MATT 24 by the verses alone believe there was an ACTUAL fds? Would a reader of matt 24 alone (no watchtower indoctrination) identify an fds as being real and then identify it as the 8 guys in brooklyn?

Not one person became a JW from reading matthew 24 and saying 'aha!'

Yet the 8 guys in brooklyn base ALL their authority on that assumption!

Something to think about....

snare x

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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

by nicolaou in

80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

stop this #cult!

snare&racket

Those stats don't add up,

You can't do it based on number of JW's in medical crisis now and work backward as there is a population of nearly 8 million JW's whereas pre 70's 60's 50's there were no where near those numbers.

The best way...probably... to do it would be to look at stats for blood use against total population then use that stat to estimate probability for jw's as a percentage of totaL population. Then work backwards for the decades adjusting for JW's in population.

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Proof of a Kingdom Hall being sold to a church!

by Sittingstraight1212 in

it cracks me up if you bring this subject up to a witness , they always try to convince themselves that i'm reading into this!!!.

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqwknq31ie&feature=youtube_gdata_player.

snare&racket

The new zealand branch has just been sold to a church to become a chsristian college, the JW press guy said they were glad it was going to a religious group lol i saw it in a news article like 3 weeks ago max.

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The Revamped Organization

by Nosferatu in

jw
friends

with the release of the new bible, i can pretty much say that the wt religion is no longer the same religion that i left 17 years ago.

it's bizarre.

they have a different bible, a different song book, a different "youth" book, a different "great teacher" book, and the "live forever" book is gone.

snare&racket

The customer is always right and been as the customer changes as the decades fall away,s o must Watchtower...... And microsoft and apple and and ford and.....

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New Bible info, Jah name x6 locations & other reports

by OwnAccord in

jw
friends

here's some info i came accross & that's been circulating via email (i did not write it).

bethel lecture on the new bible.

by governing body bro geoffrey jackson.. use the new bible and get to know it read it.

snare&racket

As if god wanted his message behind a curtain for a grand reveal.......

also as if god would want his message kept quiet so that people who went to the first meeting couldnt tell the others so as to not diminish the release for others....

this doesn't sound spiritual it sounds corporate...... Like the new iphone release....

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