hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.
i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).
recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).
Perspective is important.....
So with the perspective that I reached after years of research, the bible is wrong, there is no god, we get one life and it is fragile and at best very short....
Decide how you spend EVERY moment carefully, once it passes it is gone for good.
Welcome Batman x (my fav super h)
i am not hot linking to jw borg, but they have a whole section for obviously very small children (become j's friend, with a whole array of caleb-related stuff).
i have actually never visited the site, today was the first time, because i wanted to check a technical information about their websites architecture and came across this sh*t!.
the way they are targeting small kids is nauseating me (i have a 5 year old, still in with her mother).
With all the dumbing down, are you sure they are for the kids...... lol
"This years special talk, have your cut out's ready brothers and sisters...."
do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?
it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.
we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .
Do you have questions about or want to understand evolution? It is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.
I sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about. We are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.
Evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.
No pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.
Snare x
P.s. No hijackers or trolls please.
a friend of mine, an evolutionist, is asking me to acquire an lifehow did it get here?
by evolution or by creation book.
the edition is not important and the newer condition the better.
To be fair I was 8years old at the time, I saw the picture of a human, a chicken and a reptile and agreed it was ridiculous to think that one gave birth to the other. It seemed ridiculous. But even then I did think.... how coud the smartest people on earth believe this? I should have pursued this thought....
it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).
or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.
what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?
Prologos, I read it that you would assume you were not worth my time, when I am giving it to you right here... I am trying to help you right now! Viviane deserves a medal from you, she is trying to help you.
I sincerely don't believe you want it or you would not ignore her, but thank her.
Snare
omg i am so distressed.
i have a talk coming up on tuesday, it is the number 3 "abiram.
why opposing god appointed authority is tantamount to opposing god himself"!.
It's funny, 7 years of higher ed, 6 of them in a Russell Group university medical school... I would not dream of teaching what I have learned without weeks of research and having it checked over. The responsibility of not teaching a false fact with so many facts to teach would leave me researching for weeks for a single lecture.
To think of how care free we once threw a talk together, quoted Watchtower 'facts' without question and simply repeated what we once heard from the one source of ALL data, the society. I remember doing several talks with only minutes of preperation, when people didn't show up. Impressive? NO improper and unprofessional! The responsibility of teaching is no joke.
I am ashamed I did it at all. We used to teach up to 150 people a week, including children, with no more preperation than a half hearted bit of reading. Mostly looking to impress people with a ridiculous illustration or analogy, essential when promoting bullshit as the story being explained in of itself is illogical or immoral or simply wrong.
http://meletivivlon.com/2014/04/02/this-generation-a-new-premise/.
2nd coming...... he came back several times in the first week after his death..... the whole thing is a farce....
sigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
This site really has changed for the good in recent years.... it must be a representation of the world having easier access to info.
sigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
You guys are fighting a copy and paste religio-bot, mindless not only in belief but communication.
Everything he said was taken from chrisytian web pages, not a word of it his own. The web page is 16 years old, Perry being a fan of the advances in the 20th century now making sense... tut, tut, Perry, dissapointing and lame.
http://meletivivlon.com/2014/04/02/this-generation-a-new-premise/.
if you read it in context, it was him saying to them that they would see Jerusalem fall in their lifetime (it was written after 70ce and written retrospectively) and that they would have to start involving non-jews (other sheep not of this fold) in the future.
Now realise that the gospels were written at earliest (Luke) 30 years after Jesus supposedly died, the rest sround 70 years, by gentiles i.e. roman / greek believers and it all makes total sense.....
