I’m very aware the cult exists in 2017.
The religion I grew up in has LONG GONE.
Thats the point
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The end of an era ......
by snare&racket ini have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.
i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.
they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.
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The end of an era ......
by snare&racket ini have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.
i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.
they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.
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snare&racket
I have written some time ago, about how the religion I grew up in no longer exists. I was an 80’s JW kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.
They have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible. The religion today is unrecognizable to me, a JW of 25 years that left 12yrs ago.
Ths scene of the Watchtower sign being taken down made me feel incredibly happy. I’m very aware that the cult still exists as many people I love are still in it. But this scene... was not supposed to happen in the religion I grew up in.
We were never meant to reach 2017, the organization was never meant to be famous for paedophilia and lawsuits, the society was never going to have to downsize and sell because of money issues, it was never meant to go online to Satan’s web, in order to survive as a publishing company.
We were never going to see the Watchtower sign taken down.....
Truly that religion I grew up in has long gone.... bye bye 👋
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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!
by venus inmany people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.
in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).
it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.
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snare&racket
Venus, you are lost. Reach out to your intelligence and reason with logic. Instinct and emotional assumption is far too vulnerable to error. You are talking to exJW’s..... we have already learned this lesson.
Preach elsewhere.
Use better analogies.
Bring us evidence or.........bring us beer 🍺
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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!
by venus inmany people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.
in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).
it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.
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snare&racket
Terrible analogy in OP.
That being said, you have to prove math exists before you can even discuss the merits of a teacher discussing it.
Math has been proven to exist, god has not.
We can identify that a math teacher is flawed as the math result can’t be questioned. The answer to a math question will never change. Not only have you not got evidence of a god, you certainly don’t have all the parameters of a god set to a level of confidence comparable to a math answer, so you don’t have the means to judge a religions views on god.
The analogy is flawed and doesn’t fit. It is also unnecessary, the topic can be discussed without an analogy. You state that religions are misrepresenting god. That’s a huge claim. First prove a god exists, then do tell us how you know the blueprint for representing god and how you came to know it, so as to be a able to judge others as misrepresenting him.
it may be no surprise to you to hear that we are atheists because..... like us you too don’t have the means to do either. Stop pretending you KNOW something you can’t prove. Be humble and honest and admit we don’t know but you choose to believe. As atheists/agnostics we stick to what is evidential alone, just a you do with the god Thor or Zeus! We just include Yaweh
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Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?
by UnshackleTheChains ini noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.
when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.
but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.
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snare&racket
What a weird group!
No beards!!!
c.u.l.t !
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Higher Education
by Brian J injust spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.
clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.
their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".
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snare&racket
Simple solution....
Leave the cult and let your kids go to school.
An Organisation that punishes people for getting an education?! enough said! That’s a crazy cult, there is no excuse to stay a day longer! Get out, get your kids out.
Left 12 yrs ago, went to university, best thing I ever did.
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Adam and the Dinosaurs
by The Real Edward Gentry inhere is a fascinating subject.
according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.
we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).
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There are 8 million species known today. Let’s make it easy and use that number, ignoring extinct animals.
If he never slept, ate, rested etc and dedicated every second to naming just the animal species alive today, he’d have to name 20 animals every hour for 50 years.
Ludicrous for an adult to even imagine any substance to such a fairytale.
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Help with a punchline please
by usualusername1 ini have a joke in my comedy routine about never wrapping a gift in my life.
it goes like this..... yesterday my girlfriend said "honey, when you go out shopping can you buy me sellotape?".
sellotape.
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snare&racket
The best comedy is unpredictable, if we can write/guess the sentiments of the punchline, so can the audience before you say it.
An an ex jw I hadn't developed the skills of choosing or wrapping a good Christmas gift. I made the schoolboy error of buying my niece a puppy JUST FOR Christmas..... well Christmas Eve, that wrapping was just a little too tight.
ta da! Lol 😆
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My story and what I'm trying to do with it
by Ft2188 inmy dad was an elder my entire life and my sister a regular pioneer for most of my life, along with my mother.
ill never forget being 4 years old and staring up at the stars outside and my dad leaning over to and saying "look what jehovah made for you".
my response, "but how do you know god is real"?
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snare&racket
Amazing!
You are such a brave human being! I also felt truth was more valuable to me than comfort. I also could not live a lie, despite the consequence.
I told the elders how I felt and was told to foxtrot oscar....went back to school nearly 30yrs old, best decisions I ever made.
You sound like an awesome person. Keep in touch! X
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Today's Text - Justifying The Increase Of Annointed Ones!
by Divergent inthursday, august 31. jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 tim.
2:19.. in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christ’s death.
that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.
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snare&racket
It's so sad that they put doctrine above even their loyal followers. Mentally diseased if you question anything and leave. Mentally diseased of you buy into everything all the way and stay.
Basically you do as they say or you are clinically unwell.
What a horrific hold they have.