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  2018 Closes With an Islamist Terror Attack in Manchester

  by cofty in

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  three victims, including a policeman are in hospital with serious knife injuries after a frenzied attack on new year's eve.. the suspect is a somalian immigrant - according to a bbc reporter who happened to witness the incident he was shouting allah as he knifed his victims.. the conduct of the british transport police officer was outstanding.. bbc report.... a woman in a hijab was pictured assisting the victims.

  here in one image we have the dilemma of islam.. .

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  Having many Muslim friends I am glad that I have experienced a different life and know otherwise.

  Believe what you wish.
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  2018 Closes With an Islamist Terror Attack in Manchester

  by cofty in

  1. social
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  three victims, including a policeman are in hospital with serious knife injuries after a frenzied attack on new year's eve.. the suspect is a somalian immigrant - according to a bbc reporter who happened to witness the incident he was shouting allah as he knifed his victims.. the conduct of the british transport police officer was outstanding.. bbc report.... a woman in a hijab was pictured assisting the victims.

  here in one image we have the dilemma of islam.. .

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  Fundementalism is the danger, be it right wing, left wing, religious or otherwise.

  We all belong to this forum for a reason. We were all once fundamentalist 'christians' that were agreeable to death without blood, homophobia, shunning of loved ones and the mass genocide of all non JW's.

  We know how easy it is to be manipulated and radicalised. The dangerous is the human being vulnerable to unhealthy moulding.

  Without doubt many people are petrified of islamic radicals....but there is also a fear in Europe and the USA of old extremist right wing thinking encroaching into society again. In the USA there is a huge fear of violent leftists who have developed an aggressive ironicslluy non-liberal position on many things.

  As a liberal, im horrified at how these SJW's behave and act. I believe there should be a platform for Ben Shspiro, Milo, Jordan Peterson even Gavin Mcinnes or Alex Jones. Its unhealthy to try snd control thought and conversation. Some liberals would be horrified by that and that is my point.

  We've sll been radicalised by Watchtower and we are a testament that not everyone thinks the same way in a group! Not every incident or case is the same, as with this attack...

  "In a statement, Greater Manchester Police said the suspect had "been assessed by specialist staff and detained under the Mental Health Act".
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  Have a great New Year 2019

  by Holden Caufield in

  1. jw
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  i hope you all have a great 2019 any plans?.

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  Happy New Year x
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  I told my parents I no longer believe any teachings of JWs

  by Fognomore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since my last post i have spoke with my parents and told them i am no longer a believer.

  i told them i just can't anymore.

  here is my short story.

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  Well done for being so brave. The real world and a normal life await you 😉
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  Question for PIMOS but all welcome

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so once pimo how do you deal with going to the meetings, ministry, social getotgethers, conventions assemblies?.

  for one you know it is all off key,.

  two your 2 hours or more so just wasted (not counting the time getting ready,travelling etc).

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  I honestly think you are all very brave and special people. I also worry about the consequences to your mental health if required to live life like an undercover spy in Russia or N.Korea.

  I can’t reiterate enough, it feels incredible to simply leave and it’s as simple as leaving! You just stop going and you decline to talk about it with anyone.

  Your only regret will be not doing it earlier. I’d you have loved ones in the JW’s....don’t think how the GB want you to.... see it for the reality it is. YOU are the one that opened the door first, YOU let the fresh air blow in to your family. YOU were the brave one that acted first BECAUSE you loved your family. YOU become the beacon that loved ones turn to when they become brave enough to question. All you have to do is stop going and stop talking to the JW authorities. Within a few years you will be so forgotten about you can live a normal life.

  For those that feel they can’t leave. My heart goes out to you. It really does. If you watch documentaries of dangerous cults, you find yourself screaming at the tv.... “why didn’t you leave at that point?” .... “why didn’t you get out and drag your family with you?” .... “you can just leave! So go, get out and take your kids with you!”

  We know how hard this is in reality! But it’s still good advice!
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  Armageddon has started in Astoria, Queens

  by ShirleyW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now we know that the con ed plant in astoria, queens had an explosion, but before anyone knew what the heck was going on, so many people were posting on social media their pictures of the "strange blue circle light" that was in the sky this evening,usually st. johns which is near me has a fireworks display after a game, i thought this doesn't look like fireworks, much brighter and no sound, it actually looked like it was 4pm in the afternoon right before the sun leaves the sky.. i live in the jamaica section of queens (just up from trump's foot dr. if you saw that article in nytimes.

  com the other day) and haven't lost power but laguardia is dark now, no flights in are out.

  just wondering how the old school dubs that saw the lights outside window, thought "finally, the big a is here" !.

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  It's been so long now since I was a JW, i forgot that they think like that. Every storm, eveey loud bang, every power cut... "It's here!"
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  Are the G.B.members really good business people ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if i was an author of a book i think i would be over the moon if i was guaranteed a sale of around 5 million or more books for my work.. the jehovah`s witnesses have over 8 million members plus relatives that are fringe dwellers who come to the memorial once a year ,.

  so what a gold mine they have been sitting on as a publishing house .. why didn`t they keep publishing books for the faithful ,they could have even upped the price , and the faithful would have paid especially in prosperous country`s in the west.. they could have milked this venture for years to come as the faithful would have bought anything they would have published .. and their prophets (profits) would have soared ,literally and figuratively for many more years to come ..

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  Time is sort, I really belive that, 10 or 20 yrs max.

  Printing is a very, very expensive industry. It's an industry that can't survive on charity handouts. The watchtower has also shot itself in the foot, having spent 100 years claiming that it's financial stability was a sign of God's support. It also has shot itself in the other foot by declaring itself the provider of spiritual food in the form of literature.

  Financially and legally, the WT in the western world was forced to drop charges for literature to maintain charitable status (not for profit), They shot themselves in a third foot that was totally unnecessary....the foot didn't even exist,,,, instead of admitting that literature was now free for legal ressons they chose to be deceitful by stating the decision was new light, jesus said come take life's water FREE and so no more charges! I remember the letter being read out as do most JW's in the west. (Ironically in UK bethel we made literature for africa at night and they still had prices on i.e. they were still being sold in the 2000's to the poorest people on earth. An eye opening moment for me and likely illegal.)

  So what do they do? Reduce literature to bare minimum, staff cuts in all bethels, pile up global assets by selling off as much property as possible. They try to get all JW's to voluntarily promise a monthly financial amount. There is no means to police it and their recent financial begging is a clear indicator that JW's aren't paying. After 50 years of hammering careers, education, keeping your life simple....the spare cash isn't in the members pockets.

  This is the point we are at. They have a pile of cash now. They have cut back where they can now. They have sold what they could sell. They will have a good idea how long that pile of cash will last. Printing literature for 8 million followers every month, for free...is not cheap.The problem is they have to keep making literature, its their prophetic reasoning for existing. They would love to turn the printers off and move everything online. But they know old school JW's will say... what about the poor? What about people with no internet? Not every JW has money for ipads/pc's/internet! Not even the obvious PR rebrand of the Watchtower Society to JW.ORG could convinve the average JW to drop printed literature. So they reduce print ss much as they can and to reduce literature handed out to householders by setting up witness carts.

  But.....they are still forced to keep printing and distributing globally in hundreds of languages...for free.

  Hence I think they have little time left. They either start eating through the pile they have and see how long it lasts... 20 years max? Or they take that pile of cash and invest it. This I truly belive they will do and likely are doing, it's the only way to be sure they have a chance of being around in 50 years. Those GB members living in bethel need more than 10-20 years security. It's where they live! It's all the have! This means that cash, if being invested, is not going into literature or 'spiritual food'. They figured a big spend on a studio where cheap to produce monthoy videos could make up some of the reduced printing, but they are under no illusion that it can replace the written text. Not to mention the huge cost to the brand of showing the GB on film regularly. Every video clip reveals their awkward humanity and questionable authority.

  A big pile is also now funneled to the legal department for child abuse lawyers and settlements i.e. brand protection. The figures being consumed in these cases are not insignificant.

  Between the internet/knowledge revolution and these finances, I truly believe time is short for WT, it's run by uneducated men with power and money they didn't earn but inherited through religious obedience. It's inevitably doomed.
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  Don't give them 2019

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

  it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

  those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.

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  DOC,

  I never stepped into my KH again.

  I didn’t try and play their game or explain myself and my feelings, I realised after that meeting that there was ‘Obey’ or ‘Go away’.

  So I ‘faded’ and simply left. I didn’t respond to requests to have a friendly chat or phone call. I declined requests to study again and explained that my spirituality was my own personal issue. Over time every last JW stopped contact, including very close friends. Of course true friends don’t care if you believe in Zeus or worship Mr T.

  There were huge consequences and very hard times. I was living in my car and penniless. I had no job and no qualifications. I started from scratch. But it was 100% the best thing I ever did.

  My only regret.... I didn’t do it earlier!
  
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  Don't give them 2019

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

  it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

  those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.

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  Half a bottle of famous grouse to be exact 😬

  Maybe I should have left it for another time but everyone (not JW’ or exJW’s) had gone to bed and I was left to my own thoughts for a little time.

  I’m sad someone said it was preachy. My whole point was to make clear that you shouldn’t listen to me but I’m compelled to say it all the same. Life was REALLY hard after I left, I had nothing. But it was still the best thing I ever did!
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  Don't give them 2019

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

  it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

  those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.

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  I’m so sorry, I wrote it very late at night on my old iPad (like 3am) after a whiskey or two and it’s a grammatical shambles. But hey ho!

  My sentiments were sincere. I hope more leave this year as there is a life worth living!

  For those that felt it necessary to write a reply saying that the post was too long and so didn’t read it...... then the post wasn’t for you and that’s ok. I had an amazing Christmas and felt compelled to communicate years of thoughts to try and help others leave..... that and the Whiskey.

  Have a good 2019, I hope you have the bravery to leave if you are still in!