Posts by snare&racket

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Coronavirus Positive

by snare&racket in

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hey all,.

i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.

i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.

snare&racket

Thank you all for the kind words.

If you live on planet earth, you have to get this virus and survive it, a roll of the dice we must all experience. I am 39 and have no medical history. I am day 7 now and still no shortness of breath, but it is something that can come from nowhere so I remain vigilant. Day 6/7 to 12/13 seem to be the dangerous time period according to the data.

I have a small finger sats probe from university to keep an eye on my O2 requirements, I have made my partner leave whilst I am sick, she is a nurse, a sister in a medical emergency unit. So as I am on my own, its important to be extra vigilant and safe. If I get ANY indication of respiratory issues, I will be calling an ambulance, no ambiguity. I say this in the hope it communicates what we would hope you would all do too.

I'm aware of the treatments being discussed globally. As doctors we stubbornly attempt to remain skeptical until there is real evidence on them. So as I was asked..... No, I'm not taking Hydroxychloroquine and would not expect to receive it without evidence it is effective and safe via a significantly large study. My patients deserve this as much as I do. There is currently no ICU data and in 22 patients a study could only say viral load was reduced. We await the New York studies etc eagerly. We have dedicated our lives to make humans well, I assure you, we want a treatment ASAP so we can save more lives. Conspiracy theories about concealing treatments etc are just highly insulting at a time when the job is hard enough as it is.

With regard to antibody rich plasma... now is a good time to make sure any advance directives about blood/products you may have given your doctor in the past are still how you feel.

Personally,,I'm doing well, I sincerely just want to be symptom free so I can get back to work. It isn't a pleasant experience and I would likely be considered mildly symptomatic.

Our local stadium has been converted to a 2000 bed field hospital manned by the army. WATCH what your government is doing in preparation to get an inkling of where this is going.

Lastly, this is not clinical/medical and simply my own reading and findings.....beware the data from communist and dictatorial countries. The data seems to not correlate with nations ....less constrained regarding truth. If you look hard enough the truth is finding its way out however.

China reported a maximum of 130 deaths in a day and a total of 3 to 4 thousand deaths in Wuhan. Week two and we have more deaths a day in the UK and photos of urns arriving at funeral homes indicate about 40,000 deaths in Wuhan alone.

Hearing that China have 'conquered' the virus.... leaves me uncomfortable. Also the methods they are using are outrageous.

Some interesting things I have seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5fsidSOJMw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNeTWX7WgwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo81j6o97Z4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0jWzQI7TyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1VYck6KOo

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Coronavirus Positive

by snare&racket in

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friends

hey all,.

i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.

i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.

snare&racket

Hey All,

I'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus. I have been seeing very sick CV positive patients over the last month in my A&E role (emergency physician) it was inevitable I would contract it.

Just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.

Started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days. Night time is the worst, bringing fever and muscle and joint pains. Day 4 I lost taste and smell (a symptom highly suggestive of CV). Now I am day 6 and the symptoms go, then return every few hours quite intensely.

Day 7-10 seem to be the dangerous days where sudden respiratory distress occurs, even if only suffering mild symptoms until then. If you were to have any breathing concerns ....don't think twice, you just call an ambulance, people tend to deteriorate quickly.

I have seen young people (youngest 41) with no medical issues, arrive very unwell (sats 39% on 15L of O2) needing immediate intubation to live.

By enlarge, most patients are in the vulnerable age groups with the vulnerable diseases we have all heard about. Interestingly the stats of the co-morbidities are not what we would causally expect, highest risk factors to lowest are Cardiovascular, Diabetic, Respiratory, Cancer. Obviously there are more diseases and those can be broken down further, also more data is needed, but still interesting. Male smokers are also notable higher risk, as are the obese.

Treatment

I have been taking daily vitamins and additional Vitamin C ....it just makes sense. You don't feel like eating, especially with literally no taste. I make myself maintain my normal meal regime. Important to drink lots of fluids to maintain BP and good organ function.

Lastly, by far the best symptom relief so far has been via paracetamol (or in USA Tylenol).

Isolation

I have already had several cases where there was a vulnerable person in a household and they isolated strictly, but others in the house didn't isolate strictly with them and now have knowingly but unintentionally infected their loved ones. I can't imagine the guilt or regret.

Self isolate strictly and protect the vulnerable.

In the UK, in the health service we say.... you must be minimum 7 days off, then minimum 2 days symptom free to return to work, to avoid contagion. Symptoms can last 14 days.

The symptoms largely don't appear when you are most contagious in the early days, so be strict with yourself and loved ones, maybe assume you have it at all times. Remember even when you have had it and survived it, you can still pick it up by touching something infected or droplets from another person and pass it on via physical touch. Best analogy I have heard... imagine a doorknob is covered in glitter..... you can make up your own narrative beyond that, but before long your keys, phone, bank card, loved ones have glitter on them too, then everything they interact with etc etc

Testing

This is currently done via a throat swab, positive is very reliable, negative not so much (a poor rub may not pick it up etc). I will be donating blood after day 14 for antibody research and test kit research, they hopefully have these tests out soon.

Resources;

This is what I have encouraged family to watch and read to stay informed with some heavier stuff added in. (These were based on the questions they asked). Most informative is the imperial study and the first four corners (Australian) news item.

Best Summary of how this happened: (very good)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrqXJYf1SU

Summary of Global Response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NloOWphI5bw

Is it man made? (Summary .. very improbable)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

What species of animal did it likely mutate from?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32218527

What are the predicted numbers from analysis and models for the disease future? (In Europe)

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-Europe-estimates-and-NPI-impact-30-03-2020.pdf

Hope this was helpful to someone, please don't use this post as a means to debate conspiracy or offer treatment advice you have heard about from a source other than your healthcare providers, I know that will make all the flat earth people out there point and say "he's a shill" ... in fact I just want to keep people safe. Boiling fluids, bleach and soup gargling won't save you and hairdryers in the mouth are a bad idea. They are all legitimate things I have been asked/presented with. I've also had to advise people that the use and building of your own positive pressure airway devices is dangerous and silly.

Stay safe, take this seriously and see you all the other side of it xxx

Snare

PS... no this is not the great tribulation and any JW glee of 'here it comes' should bring a lifetime of shame, so many people are dying and are about to die, as happens very predictably every ~100 years.

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Never been so ashamed of the JW's

by snare&racket in

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just wait until this is done!

excitedly awaiting the deaths of potentially millions, to get their log cabin by a lake and a tiger is reprehensible!

disgusting!

snare&racket

Just wait until this is done!

Excitedly awaiting the deaths of potentially millions, to get their log cabin by a lake and a tiger is reprehensible! Disgusting!

Every smile, hint of glee, minute of excited evangelism they have during this pandemic, nails their self perception of good and moral humans to the floor.

I have never been so ashamed of my association with the Jehovah's Witnesses! With a chronic global child molestation pandemic of their own, that says much.

This behavior I'm reading about and hearing from my family leaves a distinct bile burning in me flavored with outrage and shame.

How dare they, people are dying!

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JW in law Family in Armagedon modus sends Reuters message

by Gorbatchov in

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a part of my in law family is in armagedon modus now.. they send this message this morning.. is it new?

never heard about it.. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-summit-britain-iduskbn21017s.

g..

snare&racket

Humans using the phrase "Peace and Security" does not make the Jehovah's Witness doctrines true...... end of.

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There will be a sliver lining to the virus

by JimmyYoung in

so for years the usa has been relying on cheap labor in china.

supply lines were never interrupted.

china has gotten away with murder in its sending anything it wants with little checking of its goods.

snare&racket

Jimmy Young, with respect ..... do you have any experience, qualifications, speciality training in disease and disease control or biology?

I wouldn’t get on an aeroplane built by a dentist, painter or plumber or doctor or lawyer or taxi driver or even a pilot.

Just because the internet is anonymous, it still calls for humility and personal responsibility. You really can’t just make this stuff up out of thin air.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.13.20022806v2

This is an expert and her numbers seem legit, however even the experts don’t have crystal balls and ever week being new data that may change the predictions, it’s far too early to have certainty.

Then there is the risk of significant CV19 mutations and their own consequences.

Don’t contribute to the mud in the water ...... and stop buying loo rolls!

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My wife PIMI wife said today...." The Tribulation has started"

by goingthruthemotions in

my wife pimi wife said today...." the tribulation has started" i was like wtf... i know things are bad.

but...... we have had other pandamics and market crashes in the past.

1889: russian flu 360,000 perished.

snare&racket

Not sure what your relationship status is like and your JW position l, however ..... you can use this to your advantage.

Ask her for a time frame, as in ... will Armageddon be here within 6 months? A year? See what she says. Tell her .... you KNOW with 100% confidence that in 6 months/ a year/ whatever her answer ... Armageddon will not have come and that this, though devastating to some will pass. Say you KNOW this 100% and that when her predicted time comes and this CV passes without the end of the world, if she wants to know HOW you knew it wasn’t going to lead to Armageddon you’d be happy to explain.

Then leave it be.

That is a powerful thing to do, be confident about it. When the time passes it will make her think 🤔. It can’t not.

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Ex JW Doctors/Lawyers/Etc.....?

by Iamallcool in

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nobody responded so far on my previous thread.

no problem.

the last sentence i asked if you know of any doctors or lawyers, etc..that left the borg too?

snare&racket

I was a JW and now I'm a doctor. I qualified after leaving.

Anything I can help with, why are you asking buddy?

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How the hell did Tony Morris get to be a GB member.

by JimmyYoung in

this guy was not a born in and did not really work his way up from the very bottom.

he kind of got some kind of fast track.

its a bit strange.

snare&racket

He's an aggressive Type A personality ....in a cult.... he was always going to be head of something.

Had he not come across the JW world, he would be the passive-agressive owner of several Car Washes, Tony's Wash n Dry. His staff would sigh as he pulled up in his Cadillac and his face and sovereign ringed fingers would be all over the tacky posters.

"Wash off that turd with Tony Morris the Third!" 💦🚘🧼

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Special meeting next month (February 2020)

by Jofi_Wofo in

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it was announced today that we will have a special weekend meeting next month.

it will be 3 hours long and will include some streamed content.. no explanation was given as to what the meeting will be about, only that it will be exciting and we will not want to miss it..

snare&racket

It wont be that exciting..... remember Armageddon is not coming. Sorry x

High probability, it has a finance angle...... donation, donation, donation!

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First Proper Chat With the JWs in Almost 11 Years

by passwordprotected in

since disassociating in october 2008, i've had little to no direct contact with the jws, apart from immediate family members (ie my parents).

i've lived in my rented flat since may 2014 and haven't had a knock on the door in that whole time.

until saturday morning.

snare&racket

Well handled, with so much respect displayed, it's difficult for them to dismiss you. It may change that young JW's life..... one day....you never know. At the very least it may contribute a tiny seed of contemplation.