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  Even if God exists…….

  by snare&racket in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m an atheist.. let’s assume i am wrong, i am willing to be.. let’s give people a god, let’s even make him the god of the bible…... does he deserve to be worshipped and obeyed?

  if so, why does his abhorrent actions not morally make you question allegiance to him?.

  does his authority alone allow him to murder and drown and order war, to throw people into a lake of fire?.

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  "You shall acknowledge no God but me. . . . You are destroyed, Israel. . . . The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:4, 9, 16 New International Version)

  "Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:15–26 NRSV)
  

  "And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." (Leviticus 26:27–29 King James Version)
  

  "See, the day of the Lord is coming — a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated." (Isaiah 13:9–16 NIV)
  
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  Even if God exists…….

  by snare&racket in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m an atheist.. let’s assume i am wrong, i am willing to be.. let’s give people a god, let’s even make him the god of the bible…... does he deserve to be worshipped and obeyed?

  if so, why does his abhorrent actions not morally make you question allegiance to him?.

  does his authority alone allow him to murder and drown and order war, to throw people into a lake of fire?.

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  snare&racket

  Who says he has different rules and why?
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  Even if God exists…….

  by snare&racket in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m an atheist.. let’s assume i am wrong, i am willing to be.. let’s give people a god, let’s even make him the god of the bible…... does he deserve to be worshipped and obeyed?

  if so, why does his abhorrent actions not morally make you question allegiance to him?.

  does his authority alone allow him to murder and drown and order war, to throw people into a lake of fire?.

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  snare&racket

  I’m an atheist.

  Let’s assume I am wrong, I am willing to be.

  Let’s give people a God, let’s even make him the God of the bible…..

  Does he deserve to be worshipped and obeyed?

  If so why?

  If so, why does his abhorrent actions not morally make you question allegiance to him?

  Does his authority alone allow him to murder and drown and order war, to throw people into a lake of fire?

  If a king proclaimed authority or even earned it democratically, does that power grant loyalty despite abhorrent acts?

  Read the bible, if any king or leader performed the acts of the God of the bible, he would be considered the MOST evil leader that had ever existed. Forget Hitler, God drowned a planet, ordered the slicing open of pregnant bellies and plans infinite destruction for those than don’t do as he asks…..
  

  I just don’t get it anymore, as an informed adult, free to think….how do people reason around this obvious moral obstacle?
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  No more Questions from MINIMUS

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.

  joined 19 years ago.

  started 4,139 topics.

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  snare&racket

  Gutted, RIP pal….

  Thank you for your efforts and questions, you are already missed x
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  UK JW's and child abuse BBC

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

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  Apologies, BBC article was 4 mins old didn't see other post.
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  UK JW's and child abuse BBC

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

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  snare&racket

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270
  
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  UFO's or Unidentified Aerial Fenomena....

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  what do you guys think....the topic seems to being on fashion lately.

  some in the borg told me one time "of course, they are for real, they could be angels, demons".. .

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  snare&racket

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E
  
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  As An ExJW or Fader What Do You Believe In?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  god?

  jehovah?

  science?

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  snare&racket

  Your motives and themes are really quite transparent, no matter how you disguise your opening post.

  Stand by your words...

  "Scientists believed the earth was flat."

  When?

  Who?

  By what scientific method?

  I have only ever heard JW's use this claim, that scientists once thought the world was flat. Utter nonsense.

  Enough with your agendas and daily posts disguised thinly to make a point, it is ruining the forum.
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  All I need is my motorcycle. Do you ride?

  by wannabefree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i began riding motorcycles in my early teens.

  my 1979 honda xl500s became my best friend.

  i had a few teenage neighbors and school friends that rode too.

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  CBR600F, Suzuki GSXR600, Harley Davidson Nightster 1200....

  
  
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  Proud Parent - My son just got accepted to the University of Maryland!

  by GrreatTeacher in

  1. social
  2. family

  i'm so proud of my son.

  he has persevered through 2 years of community college.

  three of those semesters were at home because covid19 shut in person classes.

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  snare&racket

  Congratulations!

  incredibly uplifting to hear! I love learning that others are embracing higher education. There is more than just careers and security at stake, but critical thinking and data analysis, skills that can help you avoid the pitfalls of misinformation, cults and internet 'experts'.

  Ignore the negative comments from people who have never completed higher education, the fact they choose to attempt to tarnish your joy by commenting on something they have never themselves experienced says much about them as a person.

  If he works hard, gets through the degree and chooses topics that either guarantee a career or for which he is deeply passionate, it can only be a good experience for him.

  I am incredibly happy for you both!

  I went from being a window cleaning, ex bethelite, to a university lecturer and hospital emergency physician thanks to hard work and education. The family members who have pursued education alongside me have had very rewarding careers also.

  I owe my lovely new secure life to higher education and promote it at every opportunity!

  All the best,

  Snare