2nd coming...... he came back several times in the first week after his death..... the whole thing is a farce....
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The best explanation of Matthew 24 and 'This Generation', that I've read so far
by Island Man inhttp://meletivivlon.com/2014/04/02/this-generation-a-new-premise/.
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Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?
by Perry insigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
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This site really has changed for the good in recent years.... it must be a representation of the world having easier access to info.
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Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?
by Perry insigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
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You guys are fighting a copy and paste religio-bot, mindless not only in belief but communication.
Everything he said was taken from chrisytian web pages, not a word of it his own. The web page is 16 years old, Perry being a fan of the advances in the 20th century now making sense... tut, tut, Perry, dissapointing and lame.
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The best explanation of Matthew 24 and 'This Generation', that I've read so far
by Island Man inhttp://meletivivlon.com/2014/04/02/this-generation-a-new-premise/.
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if you read it in context, it was him saying to them that they would see Jerusalem fall in their lifetime (it was written after 70ce and written retrospectively) and that they would have to start involving non-jews (other sheep not of this fold) in the future.
Now realise that the gospels were written at earliest (Luke) 30 years after Jesus supposedly died, the rest sround 70 years, by gentiles i.e. roman / greek believers and it all makes total sense.....
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Do The Writing Committee Believe?
by jw07 indoes anyone personally know jws serving on the writing committee?.
what is their outlook regarding the end; are they still truly convinced?.
are they expressing doubts or seem demotivated?.
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Did Jim Henson believe in muppets? NOPE! But I did?
Why didn't he?
He was the dude sticking his hand up their muppet hole.....
The GB remind me pf generals in a losing battle, blood and bodies laid everywhere. They refuse to accept they have lost, they got it wrong, chose and defended the wrong side....they refuse to surrender snd are going over the trenches and tsking everyone following down with them!
They know it's b.s. because they are WT 2014, there is no voice, magic feeling, special powers... they fart, burp and don't know much beyond window cleaning and avoiding tax.
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one hit....
by snare&racket ina magician, a con man, a spirit medium.... will have more power over you with a single hit, than without.
what i mean by a 'hit' is, if they convince you of something or amaze you just once intially, they can use that to hold a power over you for quite some time.. if a spirit medium was to point at you and say the name of the person you were hoping to 'talk to' on the other side, it would likely overwhelm you.
tarot card readers will describe your exact personality and thinking process.
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yes finkelstein, but I believe that comes after...
A boy with a pack of cards can make you forget the laws of nature and everything you have experienced in your life on earth so far. for a moment in time, a simple slight of hand trick of the fingers, can make you suspend EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS TRUE and expose you to woo. The problem is, we all kinda want to believe in woo, it intregues us. This makes us vulnerable.
Once that is done and you are on the hook, the reel you in slowly but with a taught line, then they net you. That net of fear, comfort and ignorance is in itself an overwhelming ilusion, just as a fish could likely hop over the net and out, so a JW can simply leave as the apologists at bethel love to say. In reality the walls seem 100ft high and they have convinced you wolves are waiting outside them, also you will not be simp,y allowed vack in and for your good your family and friends must never 'associate' with you again.....'but you are free to leave.' Once you get the balls to leave, you ignore the nasty and unpleasant thrests snout the other side of the wall.....and..... nothing happens, life is actually great and you realise there wasn't even a wall there. You could have left any time! You were duped!
If that was the sales pitch, there would be no scientologists or JW's and so they use 'the hit'. Interestingly, the JW's are not in amy way nourished by the organisation. they get told instructions on how to live and the rest of it is service OR how to attract new people, they are all self proclsimed amazing salesmen, as if that is a good thing. My best JW mate said in out last conversation how amazing it was that WT trained us to be able to go to a door and make someone think in a completly different way in just a few minutes. My heart sank, right now householders come to mind where I did exactly that. But this was all a sales pitch, it is all about getting 'hits', looking at their house, their car, do they look poor, what will their concerns and worries be. Play on what they don't know over what they do know, pretending that such white lies don't count....."No Mr Jome, we sre not here to convert you!" or "A christian?mthat's greatm it's rare to find believers thst shsre our biew todsy. May I just ask..." or "What a beautiful garden" or "I notice you have a little one, do you find it difficult in these times..."
We didn't really give a sh*t about the garden or the womans kids, we were trying to get 'hits' and we didn't even know it at the time. We did it in unison, using the same lines and techniques the world over. We promised them snake oil.... see your dead kid again, you wont die, you will get your cure, no more pain, your own home and garcen.... Just come along to this local brick building, yes the one without windows, join in, throw some cash in the box and make some more of us... all those things are coming...'soon' (140 years old and still works for the JWs).
Honestly, as you said they think it is a better life AND what's the harm, may as well roll the dice and be a JW. But we all know it is very harmful, very false and also wrong to share with others if we are too cowsrdly to examine it and question it thoroughly ourselves,
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Gene therapy to cure disease and possibly aging
by Comatose inhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140330151614.htm.
this article is amazing.
there have been other recent articles about reversing aging in mice.
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No easy answer really, journals and keeping an eye on reputable sources in different specialities. Real science is often boring and never shouted from the roof tops until proven. Hypothesis and hyperbole gets clicks and sells newspapers, so anywhere doing that usually has a different motive.
All science papers end up in journals, some have s web presence but maybe get a subscription, Nature for example or New Scientist.
For succinct fun science at regular updates, the facebook page called "I fucking love science" (pardon the name) is great and fun and references the new stories they signpost.
But yeah, I use my monthly medical journal subscription, I may also pick up bits and bobs and test them out after seeing it on a news site, heard in a podcast etc. But I don't have one source perse. (Remember when Watchtower was our one source...kinda dangerous hey ;) jokes aside ...for the same reason it isn't best done with science.)
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one hit....
by snare&racket ina magician, a con man, a spirit medium.... will have more power over you with a single hit, than without.
what i mean by a 'hit' is, if they convince you of something or amaze you just once intially, they can use that to hold a power over you for quite some time.. if a spirit medium was to point at you and say the name of the person you were hoping to 'talk to' on the other side, it would likely overwhelm you.
tarot card readers will describe your exact personality and thinking process.
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To be honest spareow, that is my point, maybe I was too vague, it is a big topic and I said too much and maybe diluted it.
The scientologist that came up with the e-meter knew what they were doing, the spirit medium reading the obituaries then calling out those names to the relaitives knows exactly what they are doing. Tne writing department that changed "Millions now living will never die." to the earlier "...may never die" now they have all died, also knows what they were doing. When they say it may stumble you to look at old literature they know what they are doing, when they 'quote' articles that say blood is dangerous, they know what they are doing, when they disfellowship people brave enough to question or people advocating child safety a day before they go on tv, they know what they are doing, when they say education is a hindrance they know exactly what they are doing...
The Watchtower mindset at the top is not a bumbling old idiot confused in his unfulfilled prophecies from Daniel and Revelation, keen to share his ideas with his brothers and sisters.... it is a sinister, deceitful, deceptive, mind controlling, selfish, ego with too much to lose. They have put all their recent effort into running around the world putting curtains over give away truths, erecting mirrors and releasing smoke, denying entry 'behind the scenes'.... They have gone so far as to 're-brand' themselves like a cheap spirit medium with a bad reputation so as to direct eyes away from old search results on google. It is all so fragile, they even have teams adjusting wikipedia, the moment anyone adds anything too true for their liking.
The lengths they will go to are beyond anything I could imagine, court records and news articles globally have made clear to those that are allowed to read them, that they have gone so far as to gag order abuse victims in court settlements. God's spirit directed eartly organisation? A 'spiritual paradise'?
They are not benign in this misdirection and deceit, they can't survive without it!
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When a Jehovah's Witness asks "When are you coming back to the Truth"
by Watchtower-Free inapostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.
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....but I have! ...... (waving library card)
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Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?
by Perry insigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
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Jesus Christ not this again.....
Perry you are welcome to believe that.... nucleic acids are a language.... that DNA is a USB dongle....and that all of science has been pronounced dead by the bible....and that those very scrolls from the desert floor from 2000 years ago, are being proven right every day, in science labs the world over.!
Seriously, that's totally cool....but stop deluding yourself that the agreement in this, goes beyond the ignorant ...and the long dead (also ignorant)....
Enjoy reading your DNA, I am sure it will prove enlightening..
ta ta xxx