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  99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

  by Space Madness in

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  i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

  how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

  as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

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  snare&racket

  Maybe this will help....

  "A common misconception is that a mutation produces a novel adaptation precisely when a population “needs” it to confront a new environmental challenge.

  For example, many people mistakenly believe that antibiotics create resistance, that is, that resistance arises in bacteria in response to exposure to the drugs."

  This quote you have is saying, there is NO thought process, the bacteria is NOT responding to the enviroment, it is a misconception to think it is a response to the antibiotics or that the antibiotics create the resistance.

  The mutation is a RANDOM mutation, it doesnt come about for any other reason than a random mistake in reading and writing the DNA. It happens in all cells, including ours, millions of times a day (hence cancers etc). If by random chance that mistake offers a benefit to the bacteria....e.g. in that it is resistant, to the antibiotics method of action, then the genes wil survive and replicate at high rates. But it all came about by chance! BUT the natural selection of those genes is not chance, it is logical. If the new gene's created by chance (random) are more suitable....they will survive in that enviroment (not random).

  That is all YOUR quote is saying. You stand/stood by the quote because you thought it was saying something else. It is NOT saying that antibiotic use does not lead to changes in bacterial evolution, the wording they used is correct and very specific, but it requires a BASIC understanding of evolution to comprehend what they are saying.

  I will say it one last time, I assume you no longer stand by your quote anymore been as you disagree with evolution (write to the author if you doubt me that it is defending evolution). So one more time....

  HUMBLE YOURSELF and buy a freaking science book..... that way you won't misunderstand the science you read.

  snare x

  p.s. if you were seeking to understand and not undermine, this embarrassment would not have happened. Be sincere about your search for answers, it is SO MUCH easier and takes far less time.
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  99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

  by Space Madness in

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  i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

  how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

  as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

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  SPACE MADNESS....

  No biology scientist EVER has claimed that bacteria 'think' as a mechanism to evolve. The only person to bring it up was youl I'll repeat the conversation we just had for you been as it is confusing for you. Again, bear in mind no scientist EVER claiming bacteria evolve by thinking.

  You: "How could bacteria resist antibiotics if they can't "think"?"

  your quote: A common misconception is that a mutation produces a novel adaptation precisely when a population “needs” it to confront a new environmental challenge. For example, many people mistakenly believe that antibiotics create resistance; that is, that resistance arises in bacteria in response to expo- sure to the drugs.

  Me:"The pressure or 'thinking' as you called it, quite incorrectly, is nothing more than the USE of antibiotics. By using them we change the enviroment"

  please note how this is exactly as the quote you added explained, though I think you misunderstood it as your motive is not to understand but undermine.

  you: "I explicitly stated that it is impossible for DNA and bacteria to think, as some people suggest with adaptation to an environment and bacterial resistance."

  me: "as some people suggest" .......Who?

  You are arguing about something NOBODY HAS EVER SAID and your own quote from a textbook is telling you the answer. It is RANDOM, there is no thought process, there is no 'need' for a solution that leads to it being found, it is PURE random mutation and when at RANDOM a deletion or nonsense mutation or tri nucelotide repeat leads to a change in the bacteria that BY CHANCE is a protection from the antibiotic, that genetic code is now going to be the most useful DNA in that enviroment, so that bacteria will replicate well and its genes will dominate in that region.

  All of this is 100% provable, all repeatable and all witnessed. All the biological mechanisms have been witnessed and explained fully. we can even evoke these changes ourselves they are THAT predictable.

  Christians call this micro evolution and don't deny it happens, because we SEE IT happening such as with antibiotics. You completly misunderstood your quote, it is not saying bacteria cant mutate a random useful advantage in the presence of an antibiotic, in fact is says the exact opposite in the last sentence, but it is saying it does not do it by thinking or by needing a solution, it is random.

  I figured you understood this as you quoted it so I felt you were being deceitful. But now I a wondering whether you understood your own post as you still don't comprehend what you have said wrong.
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  JW Kids Who Lack Sincerity: Are You In The Flipping Truth Or Not?

  by Apognophos in

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  did any of you know a jw youth who didn't seem to really even try to be sincere about the "truth"?

  not someone who led a double life while pretending to be a goody-goody jw.

  i mean the kind of kid who went to the meetings and did field service while making minimal effort at maintaining a pretense of being a true believer?.

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  Those kids were the bravest, most real, smartest people in Watchtower world....... My opinion of them has 180'd.

  I must disagree, they were THE MOST sincere of all of us. They did not hide their contempt, their mockery of the rules. They didn't pretend not to listen to 'worldly' music, didn't pretend they hadn't watched violent films. They were real, but this was mistranslated as 'rebelious'. What a disgraceful misrepresentation that was.

  They made it clear they didn't believe it and didn't care for the consequences. Everyone else was living the lie, pretending there were no doubts, conflicts, internal questions.

  Those poor kids lost EVERYTHING at age 16 or 17 and they were not even baptised, their treatment is a bigger disgrace than shunning and disfellowshipping of the baptised JW's. Several come to mind, I remember one telling me he would leave when he turned 16.

  These kids were tough, you don't find their sort here, they got on with life because they had no choice. I am ashamed to think of many who were simply forgotten about when they seperated themselves from the cong at this age, I also forgot about them and it was wrong to. These kids had nothing and nobody.
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  Assembly News Photo

  by snare&racket in

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  this photograph from a news site is a succinct summary of a life in wt's hands....... look at their faces, it says it all.. also, note the watchtower pr machine in action, explaining that it brings 4 million dollars to the location.

  (10,000 x 400 dollars) clearly a watchtower statistic, where is the care and interest for members who are struggling so much, with new videos encouraging less career activity, less work commitments, at an all time economic low for our generation.. http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2014/06/15/thousands-attend-watchtower-convention-in-cornwall.

  father: "i'm a wt 'yes' man and proud of it!

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  Literally not one happy face.......
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  Assembly News Photo

  by snare&racket in

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  this photograph from a news site is a succinct summary of a life in wt's hands....... look at their faces, it says it all.. also, note the watchtower pr machine in action, explaining that it brings 4 million dollars to the location.

  (10,000 x 400 dollars) clearly a watchtower statistic, where is the care and interest for members who are struggling so much, with new videos encouraging less career activity, less work commitments, at an all time economic low for our generation.. http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2014/06/15/thousands-attend-watchtower-convention-in-cornwall.

  father: "i'm a wt 'yes' man and proud of it!

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  Jesus Christ, invisibly filling sports arenas since 1914
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  Assembly News Photo

  by snare&racket in

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  this photograph from a news site is a succinct summary of a life in wt's hands....... look at their faces, it says it all.. also, note the watchtower pr machine in action, explaining that it brings 4 million dollars to the location.

  (10,000 x 400 dollars) clearly a watchtower statistic, where is the care and interest for members who are struggling so much, with new videos encouraging less career activity, less work commitments, at an all time economic low for our generation.. http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2014/06/15/thousands-attend-watchtower-convention-in-cornwall.

  father: "i'm a wt 'yes' man and proud of it!

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  This photograph from a news site is a succinct summary of a life in WT's hands....... look at their faces, it says it all.

  Also, note the Watchtower PR machine in action, explaining that it brings 4 million dollars to the location. (10,000 x 400 dollars) Clearly a Watchtower statistic, where is the care and interest for members who are struggling so much, with new videos encouraging less career activity, less work commitments, at an all time economic low for our generation.

  http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2014/06/15/thousands-attend-watchtower-convention-in-cornwall

  

  Father: "I'm a WT 'Yes' man and proud of it! Just look how hard I am pretending to listen."

  Mother: "My husband is a yes man.......and he is proud of it. I am depressed. He pretends to listen to me too."

  Son: "I'm supposed to smile. Nobody listens to me."
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  Critique of new JW DVD: “These Words Must be on Your Heart.”

  by WingCommander in

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  http://youtu.be/dhn2to663cu.

  im really channeling my inner blondie with my observation and critiques of these new watchtower videos.

  something about them really turns my stomach.

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  The cheek of men that have never had a real job, career or vocation, telling other people how to go about planning their secular life.

  It is no mystery, why they sound so far from reality, they are.
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  99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

  by Space Madness in

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  i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

  how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

  as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

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  snare&racket

  Also SM I certainly did read your thread, you said ....

  "I never believed in evolution as I thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible. How could an environment alter an organism's DNA? How could bacteria resist antibiotics if they can't "think"? After taking a college biology course, it turns out my suspicions were correct."

  Now you are claiming otherwise. The deceit leaves me uninterested in helping you find the information you are pretending to look for. Just so you know, science is NOT doing the same as you, it is not running from questions. Science, including the theory of evolution is NOT founded on lies. More than half of scientists are religious. There is no agenda, just a lot of things you have not taken the effort to understand.
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  99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

  how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

  as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

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  snare&racket

  "as some people suggest"

  Who?
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  org is dying

  by lambsbottom in

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  i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.

  i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.

  the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.

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  The irony.....

  When I was young, the Governing Body communicated to us that a career in the 'world' was akin to polishing the brass on a sinking ship.

  Now I am a secularist adult, I see 7 million brass polishers whilst 8 men await the construction of a life boat in a field....

  So glad I walked away from the inevitible disaster. It isn't as if the HMS Watchtower was a pleasant place to be.