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  What do you think a witness would say when shown this quote?

  by BU2B in

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  what do you think a witness would say when shown this quote, then the proof of the 1914, 1925 predictions?.

  "true, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date.

  yet nothing happened.

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  She will say that THEY (all others) are guilty of falsely prophesying. but the society is not because Proverbs 4:18 applies only to them. Therefore it is impossible for them to prophesy falsely. If they get it right then this is proof of Godly direction. If they get it wrong.....this is proof of Proverbs 4:18 at work
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  Wow, the crap that they will believe....

  by okage in

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  about a week ago, i posted that my sister in law believes the earthquake in china is proof that there are more earthquakes today than before.

  i posted the details that i sent her that show hands down that there is no increase in earthquakes.

  and i also posted that she never replied.

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  As we've learned already......JWs have had their critical thinking skills taken from them. It is no wonder that many of them get caught up in get rich quick schemes and internet medical quackery. If it was told to you by a respected JW......it MUST be true!
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  if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either

  by biometrics in

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  for even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.

  (2 thess.

  how many witlesses actually take this scripture to heart and apply it in their lives.

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  I know many that are on welfare too. It really pisses me off when you hear someone talk about how they can't wait for jehovah to bring this world and its evil governments to an end........and then that person goes back to his government subsidized apartment.
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  MIL letter to my wife

  by AggieNostic in

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  background: my wife and i are inactive, we stopped attending in 2005. raised as jws, were pioneers, i was elder etc... .

  our kids are in college, also inactive but are baptised.

  my wife went back to college, getting her degree this month at age 48!

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  Dear Mom

  I am ashamed to have to be the one to inform you that you are not serving Jehovah. You are serving an organization. Your "loyalty" to God is commensurate with how well you accept any and all dictates, rules, and changes as presented by the "faithful slave". You are told that you cannot have a relationship with God outside of the organization. You are told that you cannot understand the bible without the organization. You are told that you will die soon at Armageddon without the organization. The organization has become your golden calf. We never left Jehovah. Sadly you cannot understand that because the organization IS your Jehovah.

  God is not asking too much of me. As Jesus said, his yoke would be kindly and his load light. Harsh doctrines such the arbitrary ban on certain blood products and the disfellowshipping/shunning rule are the opposite of love and are anything but kindly. A forced acceptance (at the risk of being disfellowshipped for not agreeing) all dictates and interpretations.....even ones that have later been proven to be mistaken, is anything BUT a light load to carry. No, God is not asking too much of me. But the organization does.

  MS desires to have a relationship with BOTH you as his grandparents AND DB. (No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family." Awake! 2009 July p.29) Why don't you try taking this advice to heart? Or was this advice only intended for those of OTHER religions? Sadly, you are the ones creating the division. You are holding MS captive to YOUR beliefs and ideals. You are making HIM choose between DB and you because of YOUR beliefs. I am not surprised by his decision. I too would choose someone who loves me for who I am over someone whose love for me is purely conditional based on social status within an organization. We do care what you think, but unfortunately with this religion it is your way or the highway. You have decided that strict obedience to the interpretations of Watchtower leadership takes precedence over natural family love.

  We are deeply saddened that you would be so bold as to completely disinvite us from your 50th anniversary. Think about what you are doing. What it amounts to is emotional blackmail. IF we cease our association with the family that the Watchtower Society says we shouldn't be associating with and we begin attending meetings again, THEN you will allow us to come. THEN you will shower us with conditional love. Even if we were to grudgingly stop our association with DB and DS and begin coming back to the kingdom hall.....would we be doing it for the right reason......or simply to try to stop the painful shunning and emotional torture that you have instituted? With what you have said as well as the tone of your letter, it is clear that you believe that emotional blackmail is the right thing to do........accepted by God. You have time to change your lives as well. You have time to let the law of LOVE finally outweigh the pharasaical letter of the law.

  Whether or not we are "on jehovah's side" is between us and Him. Please re-read Matthew 7:1 and learn how to actually apply it. We long to be a close family again too. But we want it to be based on love. Real love. Not manufactured love whose affection can only be demonstrated in accordance with organizational acceptance.

  I am sorry but your words about love are hallow. Love is a feeling.....an emotion. It cannot be demonstrated ASIDE from actions. Words mean nothing. You cannot SAY you love somebody but then treat them as though they are dead. Actions speak much louder than words. There ARE other ways to show somebody that you are not pleased with their decisions. Shunning does not have to be one of them.

  I have enclosed a picture of us. Please notice that there are two empty spots on the sofa....waiting to be filled.
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  What used to worry you the most about the great trib and Armageddon?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i worried most about losing my dear family, but i also had silly worries like, what would happen to my pets?

  say i didn't have a chance to let the cats out, they would starve inside my house.

  and what if people were so starving because of the big gt famine and stole my chickens!

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  My parents reminding me of how horrible it will be and that I might be ripped away from them

  Losing sleep at night because all of the children I knew at school and my teachers will all be killed

  Worrying that my cats will starve to death because no one will be there to feed them
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  legal question

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  could a person get into trouble w/ the wtbs if he were caught leaving behind copies of the secret elders manual in laundromats and hospital waiting rooms?

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  Good one Brother.

  I COULD email it to a bunch of people. After all.....the service overseer forgot to take me off his email list and invited me to come help with "spring cleaning". I could see everyone else's email addresses
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  legal question

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  could a person get into trouble w/ the wtbs if he were caught leaving behind copies of the secret elders manual in laundromats and hospital waiting rooms?

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  oh it would be more to unravel the already fragile minds of a few local elders. If they saw that their hallowed.....priceless.....heavenly protected manual was out in public they'd have a coronary
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  legal question

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  could a person get into trouble w/ the wtbs if he were caught leaving behind copies of the secret elders manual in laundromats and hospital waiting rooms?

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  This is purely hypothetical of course
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  legal question

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  could a person get into trouble w/ the wtbs if he were caught leaving behind copies of the secret elders manual in laundromats and hospital waiting rooms?

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  Could a person get into trouble w/ the WTBS if he were caught leaving behind copies of the secret elders manual in laundromats and hospital waiting rooms?
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  JWs and Earthquakes

  by okage in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday, my wife's sister shared on facebook a screen capture of people talking about the earthquake in china.

  the top of the list was a twitter user saying "is it just me or are these 5.0+ quakes coming more frequently" (paraphrasing).

  her response "people are finally seeing what's coming" (not paraphrasing).. initially, this pissed me off because there is no increase in earthquakes.

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  Sir82 is exactly right. I once brought up the society's claims on earthquakes to my wife. Her fallback response? "How do YOU know that the statistics you have aren't fabricated by some big cover up?". Yep. That's the reply. The assumption is that there is a world wide conspiracy between seismologists and governments to tamper with earthquake stats. A true believing JW will resort to whatever tactic is necessary to maintain the belief that makes them happy