sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Hi Chris (Black Sheep)
I have sent you a PM.
I just received a 5 page printed reply from my friend, telling me why getting things wrong is perfectly fine, and that the Catholic Church has bad fruit, but not the JWs.
She also sent a copy of The Watchtower magazine February 1, 2012: "Armageddon - What is it? When will it come?' On page 25, it mentions Harold Camping and how he got it wrong :)
Feel free to email me if you prefer. Hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks again!
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Great, thanks Chris. Have just sent you an email - hope you got it ok.
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Hi everyone
Chris - I sent you a PM just in case you don't read this here.
Just wanted to let you know that I recently sent a letter to my friend with all the info you gave me
(edited to sound more like me)... It has been a hectic few months so unfortunately it took me that long to get around to it.
Will let you all know if/when I receive a response.
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Thanks. Will try the Proclaimers PDF again.
Oh I'll definitely proof read what you write - won't just cut and paste. I'll change it so it sounds like how I naturally speak. Only if you have time of course!! Otherwise I'll give it my best shot! :)
I have a Living Bible around somewhere - I'll just quote from that.
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Arghhh I tried to quote "If you have trouble putting all that together into an email for her, let me know" but I obviously clicked the wrong thing!
How do I quote??
And does this site ever stop asking for a validation code when you log in?
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Also, is there really anything in the Proclaimers book about "how they came to the date of 1914, after further research"? I don't have the book...
I assume the Bible references you quoted are from the New World Translation?
If you have trouble putting all that together into an email for her, let me know
That would be wonderful! I tend to get overwhelmed by the sheer volume of information, and have no idea where to start. If you put it together for me, then at least it would give me somewhere to start - and I can edit it to suit.
Thank you Black Sheep! Will wait to see what you think about Matt 24:11
Ziddina - thanks, will check out that thread.
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Ack sorry, Matt 24:11 not 44:11
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Black Sheep, when you say "Tell her that you can't find anything in those articles to say that they predicted Christ's return in 1914", I'll take your word for it, because I don't have access to any of the materials she quoted from :)
Here are the Bible references she quoted in regards to False Prophets:
Matt 7:15-23
Matt 44:11
2 Peter 2:1,2
1 John 4:1
She has also invited me to the big convention in Perth next weekend :) .... I wonder how many secret apostates will be there? :)
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Thanks mate!
sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.
she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.
but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.
Thanks guys.
Her response didn't surprise me... I knew she wasn't going to fall into the trap of slagging off Camping etc, because that would force her to face facts. i.e. The Watchtower is no different.
Another "off-topic" comment she made that also annoyed me was "How many are identified by their unity and love as Jesus said his followers would be?" .... Does she really believe that JWs are more 'united' than people of other religions??? I grew up Catholic, then got "saved" (born again) as an impressionable teenager, (and now I don't really believe anything)... but honestly, people from these other religions are just as united!
I mean, in high school she told me that her Dad molested her, but now she claims it was her brother..... At any rate, I don't think molesting people falls into the category of "unity and love"!
WontLeave - Can I ask why that is your username?
Still undecided as to where to go from here, but I do have more burning questions for her....
Such as.... Say Armageddon starts tomorrow. I know I'm gonna be destroyed by Jehovah, but what will become of my little girl, who isn't even 2 years old yet?? Watchtower literature says Jehovah would never send someone to hell for eternity because that would be cruel.... but apparently destroying children is AOK?!
AND the whole blood transfusion thing. Apparently the rules have changed over the years in regards to this, with changes made as more "new light" comes through. Which means that people certainly would have died for no reason.
ARGHH I can't imagine being that brainwashed!!! It makes me so mad!!!
