Posts by Je.suis.oisif

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Were Conventions, Asemblies and the Memorials boring to you?

by HereIgo in

conventions always just seemed like more of a vacation to me than anything else, especially if you had to travel out of town for it, but definitely were exhausting especially toward the end of each day.

for some reason i didn't mind the special and circuit assemblies too much, probably because they seemed like more of a social event than anything else and only 1-2 days.

the memorial always was kind of boring to me.

Je.suis.oisif

In my 32yrs ( I add this time period to take you to the far realms of boredom) as a jw who's partner was never interested. I came to dread these assemblies/memorials etc. I'd concluded that Jehovah was withdrawing holy spirit from me! What other conclusion could I rationalise under the lonely circumstances?

What finally irked me into questioning this cult was the following situation:-

Two summer conventions ago in Liverpool there was a family of 6 a few rows down from me. 4 kids/ 2 parents.

Day 1 nothing out of the ordinary. Presentable by convention standards. Too much what I call junk food passed to the kids. But hey, none of my beeswax right?

Day2, family had same clothes on. Same food etc.

Day 3, same again, clothes/food etc.

On the stage was the bethel speaker. He was ranting on about jetting around the world sourcing paper for the printing presses. He even boasted several times about travelling 1st class??? I was incensed. He's guilting us to donate more. Curtail wordly pursuits etc. Reach out. He finished with if you do reach out you'll travel the world at Jehovahs expense. WTAF was this? Here was a poor loyal family, feeling guilty and possibly inferior to quite a few there, & he's droning on about international travel skirting the obvious that it was our, our donations that funded his smug attitude from that stage.

I never went to another meeting. The last convention left me cold. Sorry for the rant. There's a lot of crap surfacing at the moment. Please don't flame me for highjacking the topic.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

Je.suis.oisif

Pale, stand back & protect yourself first. I'm not saying don't support, that would be awful, but some people just suck & suck & suck until there's nothing left of who you were.

This can be true of non-jw's, but IMHO jw's are masters at it because their scope for self-improvement lies in a very narrow frame-work. Plus many have closed minds to wordly self-improvement. Many of us are people pleasers and push aside self-preservation to ease anothers suffering. Then we realise to our detriment we're in over our heads.

The fact that you have a Gf & didn't drop her with suggestions to get back with your ex speaks volumes.

Tread carefully & take care of yourself.

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BBC Radio Four Comedy Centering Around Leaving the Witnesses.

by gonzobear in

i heard this on the radio last week and thought it was really powerful, amazingly radio four referred to the witnesses as a religious cult, which i thought was progress.

it's a strangely tough listen, i'm sure many of you have been through similar, i know i was, and to hear it presented as comedy seems to add an extra punch.

it's great to see true life stories gaining some media traction.

Je.suis.oisif

Marvellous. Just the tonic I needed. I've been having some crazy cultish dreams recently. I've put myself in their "back room" Haven't l?

Thankyou. Hilariously sharp.

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Feeling very lonely

by BlackWolf in

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friends

the past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.

the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.

every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.

Je.suis.oisif

Hey Blackwolf. Read your OP. It sounds as if the text about being at tge KH could have been mine.

I've been faded now for 17mnths. Dont5miss any of it. My situation is different from you in that I'm not dependent on parents. I don't want to patronise you, sufficient to say I remember what it was like to live in a strict non-jw household.

People can't trace internet history via a router. Your dad is just planting seeds to further emasculate you. It's a tried & tested weapon. They need your device. If you clear your history, then not possible, unless experts take it in. The only thing he can do is monitor you live. He'd have to sit there & watch numbers whizzing past him. Then he'd have to know what they all mean. Unless I've missed parental snooping technology advances. In which case, I stand corrected.

Please please just hang fire. Time does pass slowly when your young. Keep visiting or posting. We're routing for you buddy.

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Things you'd never read in the Bible

by Tahoe in

mock the week is a british improvised, satirical celebrity panel show, like whose line is it anyway?

performers deliver answers on unexpected subjects on the spur of the moment.

i found it quite funny and thought i would pass it along.

Je.suis.oisif

Hey Tahoe. Cool. Thanks. I love this show.

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Question about an elder and if I am crazy

by life is to short in

ok so i have a question.

i was a very, very true believer until i saw the child molesters in my hall and how that whole thing was handled.. my husband is older than i am and had been an elder for 12 when we married.

so fast forward to 06, we are in a hall where i thought all the elders were ok at the worst and great at the best.

Je.suis.oisif

Sorry Iown Mylife. My sausage fingers activated the dislike whilst trying to press like.

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Question about an elder and if I am crazy

by life is to short in

ok so i have a question.

i was a very, very true believer until i saw the child molesters in my hall and how that whole thing was handled.. my husband is older than i am and had been an elder for 12 when we married.

so fast forward to 06, we are in a hall where i thought all the elders were ok at the worst and great at the best.

Je.suis.oisif

Wow, unbelievable! Almost choked over my breakfast cereal reading your OP!

I've experienced similar & also observed same! Just bat s**t crazy. You need to take control & set clear & defined boundaries. Your husband needs to step up here. You'll need to devise a plan & support each other. You might be depressed. I thought I was. I've realised since turning my back on this goon show that I was suffering from the trauma of life events. Their duplicitous lives, managing their privelges in the congn was, well a TOTAL MIND F**K. It upended me mentally. I was always in a state of emotional flux for 32yrs. My esteem was dependent on how I was treated in the congn by the elders. I don't miss this. My poor nonJW hubby must have had many WTAF moments throughout all these years. Part of your problem is your husbands non-support in all of this. You don't mention this in your OP which is why I arrive at this conclusion.

Please be kind to yourself. I've just been suggested a book that will help me. It's by some one called Beck, first name totally gone. It's called " Find Your Own North Star ". Some wise bods on here tell us " they're only men, they only possess the power we allow them to have ", or something along these lines.

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RIP dad, who introduced me to this fairytail of everlastin life and paradise :(

by Frezia in

jw
friends

less than 5 hours ago my great dad fell asleep the last time :( still in a bit of a shock and sad that i will not see him again...i promised myself that once he is here no more, i will somehow make my move out of this organisation who kept us all captive believing in a fantasy of an everlasting life :( i am in a tricky situation, since raised as jw, still in, married to an active jw, and pretty sure that all in my social and family circle will turn their backs on me if i finally say goodbye to a fairytail ;(.

Je.suis.oisif

Frezia, condolences. Take your time. Don't make any rash decisions whilst your grief is so raw. One day at a time until things become clearer. You will emerge from the FOG ( fear, obligation & guilt).

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Farewell

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to say goodbye.

proverbs 14:16 nlt.

i have every faith that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face.

Je.suis.oisif

Should've made it clearer that I wast3d 32yrs of my life. I had a major wobble 14yrs ago.

I hope the future sorts itself out for you though. Please take care & live well.

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Farewell

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to say goodbye.

proverbs 14:16 nlt.

i have every faith that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will bring about needed change very soon given the continuous pressure they face.

Je.suis.oisif

I was in your position 14yrs ago. Had embarked on a second career because I was young enough. Catalyst presented itself that caused me to return. I realised that nothing had changed. I was held at arms' length for these 14yrs. Be very careful. These men do not represent " A God ". You're delusional.

RESULT:- 14yrs wasted. Gave up job that would've carried me into old age. Now I'm 60 and there's no market for me approaching pension age. I fell cheated, & I was a nobody in the org. I was always made to feel a nobody.