Just got this in my email, thought you might be interested.
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Our new home at www.theWatchtower.org is barely 5 days old but has managed to rack up over 230 posts so far.
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While this is encouraging it really misses the point. As Ben recently said to me,
"We have a rare opportunity here to establish something unique on the web. We have, in its rudimentary form, the beginnings of what could very well be the ONLY board on the internet where JW's, ex-JW's, confused JW's, interested persons, and outright opposers can sit down and simply talk. The potential is staggering when one realizes that there is no site at present that can make that claim. Given the caliber of the people already here I think that it is very much in the realm of possibility. It will all depend on what is done now."
So what will you do now? Were you a regular contributor here at the old JustJW's forum? We would appreciate your comments at the new site. Even if you'd prefer to 'stay on the sidelines', why not come and have a look around?
The forum will only be as good as members who contribute to it.
I'll let Ben, who is assisting me as an Administrator at the new site and who has a much better way with words than I do, make the argument on my behalf:
"We can have a place where there is freedom of expression yet not at the expense of decency and good taste. We can have a place where disagreements exist without mudslinging and name calling. We can have a place where there is a feeling of mutual respect and a tolerance toward others, a place that will attract those that wish to keep such discussions on a high plane.
People make the board. If those who only want to shock others with profanity and obscenities or pointless arguments are shown that this is not what we want here, they will go elsewhere. If those who truly want to be civil, truly want to discuss with the idea of actually accomplishing something understand that this can be done here, then they will come here.
Those are my concepts of what this board could become, something more than just one more place for someone to add to their 'favorite places' and check on from time to time. It could become a model for other boards to follow, a standard by which other boards will come to be measured. A true, neutral forum for the exchange of ideas among the most controversial people on earth, Jehovah's Witnesses. For there is no one that has never been a Witness that can truly comprehend our faith, our thinking, our hopes, dreams, our disappointments, and our pains. No one who has never been through the JW experience could ever know our minds and hearts on these matters. We need a place but not just a place. We need a sanctuary where all of us can come together and come together as fellow human beings and share not only our pain but our joys and hopes as well."
Ben
So how about it, will you join us?
Joel
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www.theWatchtower.org
by mike injust got this in my email, thought you might be interested.. -mike-.
our new home at www.thewatchtower.org is barely 5 days old but has managed to rack up over 230 posts so far.. .
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England vs Argentina
by ballistic in.. is in 1 hour.. now lets see, i'm going to be watching it at work and getting paid for it, but the problem is there's no beer.. what would you say?
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FIFA World Cup 2002
World Cup Group FP W D L F A GD PTS
1 Sweden 2 1 1 0 3 2 1 4
2 England 2 1 1 0 2 1 1 4
3 Argentina 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3
4 Nigeria 2 0 0 2 1 3 -2 0
Teams finishing first and second qualify for the second round. Teams on equal points are ranked according to the following criteria:
a) Goal difference in all group matches
b) Goals scored in all group matches
c) Points scored between the teams that finish level
d) Goal difference between level teams
e) Goals scored between level teams
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Not all are windowwashers!!
by carlitos71 into those that say that most jw's are windowwashers(due to no higher education), well you're wrong.
some are carpet cleaners, grease monkeys, pizza delivery boys, bread delivery boy, drivers, hair cutters, carwashers, toilet cleaners.... hey wait a minute... like the allmighty homer j. simpson said "dough!!
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I've been cleaning windows for 13 years.
I start at about 6am and work through 'till lunchtime. My work is all commercial and solid as a rock. I get to spend time with my wife in the afternoon and, when they were younger, I used to occasionally collect my kids from school.
Sure, I moan like hell during the cold winters but the summer makes up for it. I'm fit, I work in the fresh air instead of an office, shop or factory and I've made loads of friends through this work.
I work no more than about 30 hours per week usually ending my day between 11am - 1pm and I earn about £2600 per month.
And I had no trouble getting time off to watch England stuff Argentina!
So why don't the rest of you who always have a 'pop' at us window cleaners just grow up. I wouldn't swap places with any of you!!!!!
mike
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Dateline to RE-AIR on MSNBC!!!!!!
by silentlambs ini have just received word the dateline program will re-air this weekend on msnbc.
msnbc is a news program along the format of cnn, dateline has a contract through nbc and when they have an exceptional program msnbc runs it again.
the program will is called dateline weekend edition which airs 2-3 times over the weekend.
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mike
I missed it the first time around, will this second screening be made in the Uk as well?
mike
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state but certainty is a ridiculous one." --Voltaire
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Population BOOM!
by nicolaou inlet's assume that there are about 9,000,000 armageddon survivors (baptised jw's and their children), after just 30 years every survivor will be sexually mature and with increased vigour and health.. .
chemical contraception, condoms, i.u.d's etc will all be long gone so any married couple with a normal sex-drive will be producing children at an average rate of about 1 per year.. .
world population at the beginning of the 20th century was less than 1.5 billion.
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Getting rid of all JWs, will not get rid of all pedophiles.
Actually blondie that's not what I meant. You said in your previous post that procreative powers may be halted, therefore no children.
No children, no pedophiles.
Crappy solution and of course not one that I give a shred of credence to.
mike
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state but certainty is a ridiculous one." --Voltaire
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Population BOOM!
by nicolaou inlet's assume that there are about 9,000,000 armageddon survivors (baptised jw's and their children), after just 30 years every survivor will be sexually mature and with increased vigour and health.. .
chemical contraception, condoms, i.u.d's etc will all be long gone so any married couple with a normal sex-drive will be producing children at an average rate of about 1 per year.. .
world population at the beginning of the 20th century was less than 1.5 billion.
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blondie
the WTS has theorized that when the earth is comfortably filled, that God will shut off everyone's ability to have children.
At last! The Watchtower have worked out a way to solve their pedophile problem.
mike
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state but certainty is a ridiculous one." --Voltaire
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mike
Great quote:
"When there's no one left to leave you
Even you don't quite believe you
That's when nothing can deceive you"While You See A Chance
Steve Winwood
-from the album "Arc Of A Diver"**Stand up in a clear blue morning
Until you see what can be
Alone in a cold day dawning
Are you still free can you beWhen some cold tomorrow finds you
When some sad old dream reminds you
How the endless road unwinds you*While you see a chance take it
Find romance fake it
Because it's all on youDon't you know by now
No one gives you anything
Don't you wonder how you keep on moving
One more day your way go your wayWhen there's no one left to leave you
Even you don't quite believe you
That's when nothing can deceive you( * Repeat)
( ** Repeat)And that old grey wind is blowing
And there's nothing left worth knowing
And it's time you should be going( * Repeat)
While you see a chance take it
Find romance
While you see a chance take it
Find romance
.........................................................................Great topic!
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state but certainty is a ridiculous one." --Voltaire
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FREE FLYER TO DOWNLOAD AND DISTRIBUTE!
by nicolaou inthe volunteer section at the dnc site is coming along now.. in addition to the affiliate scheme there are now labels and an eyecatching a5 flyer to print off and distribute.. .
it's simple - no fancy graphics - and can be printed 'black on white' very cheaply.. a 1000 flyers can be produced for very few 's or $'s.. how about spending a bit extra for two-color printing, the bright red warning!
is really worth it.. don't say there's nothing you can do because now there is!.
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mike
This is great!
A lot of us might need to be careful where we do our leaflet drops but it's definately worth doing.
Well done Nick
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state but certainty is a ridiculous one." --Voltaire
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DNC - online!
by DNC inplease check it out and let me know of any bugs, broken links or adjustments that need attending to.. .
the only page i've yet to finish is the f.a.q - i'll get it sorted over the weekend.. .
please, please don't 'go public' (yeah right[8>]) with this just yet, let's be sure we have it just right before we release it.. .
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mike
Dilation n' Curettage?
Say what?!
mike
"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state but certainty is a ridiculous one." --Voltaire
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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!
by nicolaou inreports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.
nic'
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Jelly, come out come out wherever you are!
mike