I CHOOSE to go and do some housework. I CHOOSE to not let this nonsense of Crystal's upset my night.
But - I did not EVER ..... CHOOSE ... to suffer clinical depression. Ever.
Mim
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
I CHOOSE to go and do some housework. I CHOOSE to not let this nonsense of Crystal's upset my night.
But - I did not EVER ..... CHOOSE ... to suffer clinical depression. Ever.
Mim
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
Larc - hon, I was referring to Crystal - not to you. I did comment on your words of perhaps this thread is too blunt. I responded it was not blunt, but incorrect.
We are at no impass.
Eman - The only thing of your post I can agree with is the very last paragraph.
Mim
Edited by - Mimilly on 16 September 2002 19:30:39
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
Larc - I have a problem with someone who suggests that shrinks and pills aka therapy and meds are not necessary because all we need to do is exercise and will ourselves well.
This thread is not blunt. It's incorrect. Serious depression requires therapy, meds, and a hell of alot of work and effort to deal with - let alone - get over.
Mim
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
musky - don't give it a second thought. Many here (including me) would be there for you.
Mim
first someone goes and makes a mockery of depression by saying that one can "will" oneself out of it.
after reading that and having been in a severe depression in the past... i just about hit the roof.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36736&site=3 .
LuckyLucy - I had my nap. Can I have my cookies now?
If you are agreeing with Crystal, then no, I did not put words in your mouth.
Mim
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
Crystal - very good. (applause) No cognitive distortions there!
You weren't giving an 'opinion' regarding depression. You were insulting the efforts of many people who battle it daily by suggesting they can get over it; that they don't exercise or take responsibility for themselves (thoughts and actions).
Your idea of a solution flies in the face of eons of research in the fields of psychology and psychiatry regarding REAL depression.
Scientific proof...... or Crystal's idea......scientific studies....or Crystal's opinions....hmmmmmm.
You are indeed mixing up being negative, which cognitive therapy helps greatly, with depression, which is the word YOU used in the title of the thread. People can choose to be in a bad mood/stay there etc. but they cannot choose to be depressed. Again. Scientific fact.
Mim
first someone goes and makes a mockery of depression by saying that one can "will" oneself out of it.
after reading that and having been in a severe depression in the past... i just about hit the roof.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36736&site=3 .
LuckyLucy - It is hard enough on people who are clinically depressed without having people like Crystal and now you, saying to just rise above it, just get over it.
God dammit if we could - we WOULD!
It's just that simple. Now go do some research on the subject.
Mim
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
change my own brain chemicals by exercising (yes I know it's a dirty word) but it works.I have taken responsiblity for how I think and it works.
Crystal - Where do you get off assuming that those of us who ARE depressed don't exercise or think that it's a dirty word? Hmm?
And where do you get off assuming that we, the depressed, have NOT taken responsiblity for ourselves?
Perhaps it's time you took responsibility for your actions and realized how greatly you've offended those who struggle daily with depression.
Mim
first someone goes and makes a mockery of depression by saying that one can "will" oneself out of it.
after reading that and having been in a severe depression in the past... i just about hit the roof.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36736&site=3 .
((((((((((((((((((((((Elsewhere))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I'm miffed over that thread as well. It's an insult to anyone who's ever had to actually deal with it.
breathe.....
Mimilly
the answer to that question is yes!!
we always want the easy way out , a pill, a religion , a shrink to make us happy.no one can make you happy but you.start taking control of your own life and your own brain and stop depending on others.
xena posted this the other day.
Gee Crystal - you never said you experienced clinical depression! Left that one out eh? Well how nice that you've found something that works for YOU.
Treatment for depression is not a one size fits all.
You OBVIOUSLY have never had clinical depression or you wouldn't be spouting such bullshit!
Oh - btw - I exercise and take responsibility for myself too. And you listed those things off as if they were items on your grocery list.
Hey WORLD! Crystal had this depression thing ALL figured out for ALL of us!
Mim
Edited by - Mimilly on 16 September 2002 17:55:19