my friend has it, she says is good but not crazy about It. I think she was expecting better instant results.
Bella15
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Has anyone ever used a NONO??
by DATA-DOG injust curious.
i hate shaving, ect.
ummm..errr...i mean "my friend" was asking about this device.
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JWs no longer taking the Governing Body seriously.
by kneehighmiah inthe recent letter being us to come to detroit shows that jws are beginning not to take the gb seriously anymore.
the buzz following the meeting was that the letter was unprecedented in its tone.
this coming from long time jws of 30 years plus.
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Bella15
The only reason I would like to go back to an assembly is to make it a big deal about the credit card machines ... lol, but then I think ... NAHHHH ...
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Talked to JW's in Service Today (kinda long...sorry)
by exwhyzee ini was in my company vehicle and i spotted some jw's going from door to door.. i circled around the block and pulled over.
when they passed, i rolled down the .
window and asked the pleasant looking middle aged couple as they passed, if they were jehovah's .
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Bella15
Good point I took from your post ...
they are telling the same to my relatives, they are JWs and their only son died out of their "truth", so they are being told he is going to resurrect blah blah blah but hell NO they didn't let them use the KH or have of their congo elder give the talk, this couple in the middle of their anguish of losing their only son and with little money on top of it, had to go around looking for a room to host the funeral service ... I haven't asked how many JWs actually went to the funeral.
Pathetic
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I did it !!!!
by snare&racket in7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.
i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.
i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.
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Bella15
CONGRATULATIONS Doctor!
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My perfect paradise house
by redvip2000 inwhile browsing throught my facebook timeline today, i came across a post from a facebook "friend" who is a hardcore zealous jw.
he obviously has no idea that i'm an apostate.
and so this person provides me endless entertainment on a daily basis with his delusional posts about the org.. today we had this gem, where he said he had just designed his paradise home in photoshop which i am posting a picture here.
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Bella15
Talking about inconsistencies .... lol ... so .. my mother was telling me about one of the relatives who is JW that lost a child and wants to make a keepsake album/book to show to him when he is resurrected in the "new order" ... and that she didn't have the heart to tell him that they are not going to have any of that stuff in the new order ...
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Chat with Elder, how would you reply?
by awakening inhad a sit down chat with an elder who is aware of my doubts.
we were on the subject of new light, i was saying that if the org changes a teaching then the old teaching was wrong and cannot qualify as truth at the time it was taught, so where did the falsehood come from?.
his response was the gb is imperfect!!
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Bella15
Weird example the one he uses ... that was a prophecy what he is referring to. Jesus knew he was going to be betrayed by one of the 12. He didn't get it wrong. It has nothing to do with the point he wants to make.
Also, I don't think the bible tell us that "after heartfel prayer" Jesus picked Judas. I think he is adding to the story ... something they always do ...
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A conversation with my JW mother ...
by Bella15 inso, due to recent deaths in the family i have been talking with my mom lately.
i try to say something here and there to make her go hmmmm ... so she made a comment about the millions now living will never die ...i said " wasn't that said about the 1914 generation, and we know how that went", meaning will not come true.
she thinks for a moment and said...yeah there's something new writtten somewhere in one of the magazines, but she went hmmm for a split of a second there ..lol.
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Bella15
I found this commentary:
"The devil has used the millenium teaching to rob Christians of their inheritance. Many of the scriptures that promise blessing or victory are assigned to the millenium. This prevents us from claiming them now, robbing us of what God has for us."
This is what I saw in my mother and sisters, they feel powerless ... perhaps it is only them ...
Also, they attach Satan with so much power, that this world belongs to him, that he is the ruler, and I told my mother that Jesus defeated Satan, that this is the age of Holy Spirit, that the whole earth and everything belongs to God, that Jesus has been given power over all NOW and he in turn has given us power, the same power that resurrected him ...
Further, i noticed how they constantly say they are imperfect in this imperfect world ... how awful things are in the world. I told her that murder was not news that God warned Cain about what he was about to do and God didn't stop that first murder ... theyhave this fixation with murder and war ...things that God even taught people how to do it ... so I told her there is a big mistery in all this God/creation stuff
Lots of reference to being obedient, and servants ... there is no power in them ... all has been given to that CORPORATION..
Funny that I have actually forgotten that these are things the JW really believe, it feels so foreign to me to hear that I don't have power (spiritually speaking).
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A conversation with my JW mother ...
by Bella15 inso, due to recent deaths in the family i have been talking with my mom lately.
i try to say something here and there to make her go hmmmm ... so she made a comment about the millions now living will never die ...i said " wasn't that said about the 1914 generation, and we know how that went", meaning will not come true.
she thinks for a moment and said...yeah there's something new writtten somewhere in one of the magazines, but she went hmmm for a split of a second there ..lol.
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Bella15
Thank The Searcher .... I will use those points.
Also not kidding I woke up in the middle of the night turned tv on landed on Christian channels and both were talking about faith and how Jesus told the people he cured, Your faith have made you well (something like that) ... That was exactly what I was talking with my mom, faith can do wonders and that knowledge is what have helped me, I really really live by faith, Jesus said even if our faith is the size of a mustard seed we can move mountains ,,,
me being able to talk with my mother about JW stuff is the result of my faith, I stopped long ago trying to reason with my JW family and I just started to pray and have faith that God in due time would make things different. It is not a coincidence that my mom and my sisters are happily talking to me now ... The best testimony is how good and well they see me, they called me happy, complete, wholesome, they admired how intelligent, respectful, well mannered, clean and pretty, loving my teenagers are. Before they despised me, I was the crazy, rebel one. All thanks to Jesus that showed me The Father and gave me the Holy Spirit to help me in THIS life.
my brotheir that went back to study with JWs stopped that, thanks God and is mentioning Jesus here and there ... and he yearns for the family to be united, he realized that it cannot be accomplished in that organiZation ... He went back right when they were calling apostates all sorts of names ... Lol ...that didnt help at all.
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Donations - how much is normal?
by Frazzled UBM inhow much would a well-off witness be expected to donate?
my wife has just withdrawn a few hundred pounds from her account and refuses to tell me why so i suspect she plans to donate it as she hasn't donated for a while because she knows i don't want our money going to the organisation.
is it likely that she is feeling under pressure to make a large donation?.
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Bella15
you know the JWs don't do charity work, or have ministries within their halls (kids Sunday school, nursery, seminars for specific problems - parenting, divorce, bevearement, teens, missions, etc, etc, etc) so just pitch in for rent, utilities, insurances and maintenance, I'd give $10/month, but that's me, I understand some may give less ....lol
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A conversation with my JW mother ...
by Bella15 inso, due to recent deaths in the family i have been talking with my mom lately.
i try to say something here and there to make her go hmmmm ... so she made a comment about the millions now living will never die ...i said " wasn't that said about the 1914 generation, and we know how that went", meaning will not come true.
she thinks for a moment and said...yeah there's something new writtten somewhere in one of the magazines, but she went hmmm for a split of a second there ..lol.
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Bella15
YES,that's why I realized, my mother and 2 of my sister are sick with stress related illness, they all go to holistic doctors that diagnose people by looking in their eyes, another uses magnets, another feels and reads energy. The diagnosis for the 3 of them from 3 different doctors, it is all emotional stuff they carry for years. i told my mother what if you lived to be 90, you plan to be always sick emotionally then another 1,000 years? So what's the purpose of Jesus dying for us?
I realized also that she doesn't know or believe that by faith she inherits the promises to Abraham. So all the promises she may read in the bible she doesn't make them hers. Just totally faithless, hopeless internal life. For her having faith means having the "truth", she exercise her faith by going to meetings, preaching DDT, etc
She thinks that only in the paradise she will forget all the wrongs that people has done to her. I reminded her of the Lords Prayer ...forgive me just like I forgive others.... Mind you she will not forgive, she will forget everything because god will make sure she doesn't remember the past in the paradise.
She thinks I have been able to overcome all the emotional bagagge because I have education and been exposed to other things in life ....lol.