Oh, I don't know fred. Maybe it's because I dissed the org., and since the GB is the nucleus of the whole @#$@pile, well, I just assumed you felt hurt at the "insults". And what "situation" are you talking about? What situation? Now, why don't you answer the question?
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Proof the WT is God's Org?
by mindfield ini recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
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Proof the WT is God's Org?
by mindfield ini recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
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mindfield
Oh, sorry fred. I guess I was speaking abusively of "glorious ones". Yes, the GB is a glorious bunch.
What is this, fred? Trying to make me feel guilty? Why don't you just answer my last question instead?
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Simpsons and JW...
by mindfield ini have finally got the simpsons bit where two jw's go to the simpsons house.
if you haven't seen it yet, you can listen to the wave file first: http://www.vspin.com/seagullclub/jehovas_witnesses.wav.
and i'm trying to find a host to upload the 13mb file.
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mindfield
1999, i believe.
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Proof the WT is God's Org?
by mindfield ini recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
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mindfield
I recall a conversation I once had with my JW uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong. treated me like @W#$@ even though i was never baptized.
Funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "Well, do you know of any other religion that insists on God's name?" I didn't know of any, so I coudn't really say yes.
He also said "Do any other religions preach the good news as much?" That one was a bit easier... I told him what the JW's are preaching right now isn't what Jesus's disciples were preaching at all. He was taken aback, at first, then replied, "Well, it's the good news of the kingdom". Right. So anything remotely connected with the "kingdom" is good news. Uhuh...
So, basically the only "proof" that the JW's are God's org. is that they insist on God's name, Jehovah. But is that enough? Didn't Jesus say something about "They will accomplish many signs, but to them, I will say 'I never knew you'"? Insisting on a name, a false one at that (the WT has admitted many times "Jehovah" was taken as a name because of its popularity, not because of its correctness), doesn't make up for the rest. Just because they have Jehovah in their name means that they can go away with everything. JW posters here have repeatedly admitted that many aspects of the JW religion is in error, but that one day, Jehovah God would fix it. The question is, Why would he? Is it because they have some name for him? If I was to invent some cult called "Kevin's Witnesses", would God allow me to do anything? I sure hope not.
Now, what about the "good news"? I admit, it is surprising the WT has accomplished such a huge endeavour. But several points arise. First, is it really the good news? Did the disciples preach about 1914? No they didn't. So is the good news anything remotely connected to the kingdom? If it was, the JW's could might as well uniquely preach about the beauty of the kingdom in heaven and get away with it. The good news isn't some sort of multilateral stage where people can jump up and down, claiming to have THE "good news." The mormons preach about the kingdom, don't they? Who cares about their worldwide success? There are more christians than JW's right now, and claiming the Catholic Church merely "paved the way" for JW's is self-righteous.
What about Christian unity and love? You know where to shove that crap. There is no "unity and love" in what I'm concerned. Most JW's I know are a bunch of self-righteous bastards who shake hands with some and ignore others who are just as trustful, but aren't "baptized" yet. Take my brother for example. He was talking with some JW friends at the Hall, when this egotistical pig (brother X) comes over and shakes hands with everyone. Oops, did I say everyone? Of course, he ignored my brother. Now of course my brother isn't a publisher yet. And of course, his brother(me) doesn't come to the meetings anymore. But is that truly a mark of Christian love? This brother doesn't give a crap about my brother or myself. Well, of course, he probably forgot all about me a long time ago anyway, but the point remains. Brother X is just one of many in our cong. who, through their friendly smile, whose actions betray a sense of mistrust and superiority. Spare me the "we love each other" drivel.
So what else "proves" that JW's are from God? Their interpretations of the Bible? Oh yeah, they're real successful. Many now know that Armageddon came invisibly in 1975. {) The prophecies are whack, the doctrinal flip-flops are almost as bad, and the "Revelation" book is just trash. The GB, through all their self-righteousness, see every second verse as having some kind of special meaning for their presence, their actions, their "unique role". Jeez. It's worse than The Rock.
Nope, I can't see any proof for the JW's being "special", "unique", "loving, true Christians of God". Can any JW here provide me with some proof???
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Simpsons and JW...
by mindfield ini have finally got the simpsons bit where two jw's go to the simpsons house.
if you haven't seen it yet, you can listen to the wave file first: http://www.vspin.com/seagullclub/jehovas_witnesses.wav.
and i'm trying to find a host to upload the 13mb file.
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mindfield
Okay, finally got a working link:
http://www.geocities.com/cyberneo_ca/smaller3.zipTry copy-paste, and it should work.
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Simpsons and JW...
by mindfield ini have finally got the simpsons bit where two jw's go to the simpsons house.
if you haven't seen it yet, you can listen to the wave file first: http://www.vspin.com/seagullclub/jehovas_witnesses.wav.
and i'm trying to find a host to upload the 13mb file.
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mindfield
Won't work like that... you'll have to copy-paste the address in the address box.
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Simpsons and JW...
by mindfield ini have finally got the simpsons bit where two jw's go to the simpsons house.
if you haven't seen it yet, you can listen to the wave file first: http://www.vspin.com/seagullclub/jehovas_witnesses.wav.
and i'm trying to find a host to upload the 13mb file.
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mindfield
Excellent news! Download the video file at http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/mindfield/smaller3.zip !!!
Unzip it, and it should work! (I hope, anyway...)
Enjoy!
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Simpsons and JW...
by mindfield ini have finally got the simpsons bit where two jw's go to the simpsons house.
if you haven't seen it yet, you can listen to the wave file first: http://www.vspin.com/seagullclub/jehovas_witnesses.wav.
and i'm trying to find a host to upload the 13mb file.
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mindfield
Sorry about that... worked on mine!
Anyways, the 13mb file works perfectly on my windows media player, after I fixed it with another program (how complicated can a file get!?!) So I'll find a host to upload it on, give you the site name, and you'll be able to play the JW bit to your hearts content!
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JW/WT Idolatry Test
by Lee Elder inhere is a simple test for idolatry.
tell a jw, particularly an elder, that you don't know if you believe in god anymore.
a typical reaction would be for them to try an encourage you.
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mindfield
I don't think so.
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Simpsons and JW...
by mindfield ini have finally got the simpsons bit where two jw's go to the simpsons house.
if you haven't seen it yet, you can listen to the wave file first: http://www.vspin.com/seagullclub/jehovas_witnesses.wav.
and i'm trying to find a host to upload the 13mb file.
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mindfield
concerned mama:
Me too!!! I fiddled with that @#$@# file all afternoon for it to work... if you play it in realplayer, it'll work, though. download it at www.real.com. The 13mb file I have is only the JW part... it works, though. I'll share it on kazaa for you guys to download....