diamond's thread inspired this idea... at least, this is how i wish my last talk had gone.. next on the school is brother hmmm.
his talk is based on the song of solomon, and his theme is: "be steadfast and faithful, like the shulamite maiden.. "throughout history, babylon the great, the world empire of false religion, has fornicated with the scarlet-colored wild beast.
they have traded support for the league of nations--and it's successor the united nations--for political clout and expediency in furthering their selfish goals.
Hmmm,
True, your "talk" is touchy, but it's giving me ideas.
I won't be able to make another talk for a while, well, for a lifetime, but my brother, who is still "in", may be able to make a mind-blowing talk before his departure. I intend to write that talk for him.
Hehe...
jehovahs witnesses are under a grand and multi-faceted illusion that has been fabricated and is being maintained by the society.
one such facet of that great illusion is that jws are actually proclaiming gods kingdom and teaching people the truth about god and jesus.
it was only a few years ago (hey, im not the brightest candle on the cake!
Frenchy, man, I'm saving your post. This is too good. You put into words, eloquent at that, thoughts that I myself am having. Excellent post!
i recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
Fred,
That's it? That's IT? Jeez, I would have expected more. I never said I had the ultimate truth, fred. I'm still open-minded. If someone can prove to me the JW's are God's religion, well I guess I'll go back. Of course, that will be pretty hard since you can't seem to answer with more than one line at a time.
To the others, who provided some hard evidence of the origin of God's "name", what about the preaching of JW's? Is there some other "organized religion" that does about the same?
in order for meat to be blood free, as the jews and the early christians would have understood it, one has to cut the neck of the animal and let its heart pump the blood out.
not hit it over the head like they do in the slaughterhouses today.
also you have to remove the veins and arteries starting at the neck working down.
Good food for thought.
My mom and dad still insist on buying a certain kind of pepperoni. Sigh. When I try to talk to them about it, they insist it's a matter of conscience. I couldn't approach them with this argument with a meter-stick. Oh well... no pepperoni for me...
allah!.
they need to put that in thier new world translation!.
and stick it up thier.....whoops!
No, God's name is "The Rock".
I don't want any disagreements. It's the absolute truth. Accept it or DIE!
End of argument.
dogpatchs' post on the u.k.s df'd or da form reminded me of a conversation i had with a sister about 6 months ago who still works in bethel.. she work in the section where the wt makes copies of videos and tapes.. she was called to see the supervisor in of of the computer data entry sections (im sorry but i don't know the exact title of these jobs or "wings"), she had tried to get into that field due to her vast experience in computer networking before marrying a bethelite.. well she said that she walked into the offices only to be told that the sup.
was out for a minute.
while she was hanging out for the sup.
Fred,
What the hell are you talking about?
three football fans were on their way to a game when one noticed a foot sticking out of the bushes by the side of the road.
they stopped and discovered a nude female, dead drunk.
out of respect and propriety, the bears fan took off his cap and placed it over her right breast.
Ouch!
Too bad I don't know anything about sports... the joke was still funny!
i recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
Anyways, the point i was trying to make is, JW's don't care about what the org. has done wrong. All they care about is the positives. I'm not saying looking at the good side is bad, just that looking at the good side of the deaths of who knows how many people because of what the GB thinks about blood is wacky.
So, what are the positives? What are the reasons for JW's to believe they are in God's org.? Let's play devil's advocate for a while here... pretend you're fred hall. What are your reasons for believing the JW are from God? (fred, I'm only saying that because you just can't seem to answer to my question)
i recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
William, you remind me of an elder who, after I told him my change of beliefs, told me I still had many friends in the cong. LOL. How hilarious. Yes, I could just feel the love radiating from them when I went to a "cong. get-together" once... Oh, yes. JW's are my real, unconditional friends.
These people have no idea what real friendship is all about. I still don't know what it really is. I haven't had that much time to make real friends of my own.
i recall a conversation i once had with my jw uncle about the many doctrinal flip-flops, the blood issue, and how some in the cong.
treated me like @w#$@ even though i was never baptized.. funny, the only thing he could defend himself with was "well, do you know of any other religion that insists on god's name?
" i didn't know of any, so i coudn't really say yes.
And what truth is that fred? The truth about the "truth? Or the "truth"? Truthfully, I have no idea what truth you're talking about.
