Alanf, now the situation involving Mary Rutherford is "unclear"? Funny, it sure seemed clear when you first mentioned it! Yeah, you actually sounded like you knew what you were talking about there! Can you just admit that you don't know what you're talking about and spare us all the junk?
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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larc, are you serious? All you have given are names of people who knew and traveled with the Judge. Some of these people were involved in divorces. Is this all you have? I guess everyone whom the Judge knew, was involved with a divorce, and traveled with was involved with him? Are you and Alanf both on "autopilot"?
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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Alanf, I am willing to grant that analytical reading is not your strong point. But having said that I still think I was pretty clear in asking you to document your claims. If you did not want to "steal the thunder" from alleged, unnamed authors then you should not have stolen the thunder by repeating the allegation! To do so but to fail to provide the documentation that you say is available elsewhere is libel since you cannot show that it is true. If you can't prove it, and you write it, then you have to answer for it. In your case an insanity plea would probably get you off, but you can't be this naive can you?
I'll check out larc's evidence and see if he able to give some credibility to an issue you screwed up royally.
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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Copernicus, what? Alanf made allegations about Rutherford, as did Farkel, that are totally unproven. My calling them on this is not something I have to prove. It's just something I have to point out. If they cannot back up their claims, then mine are proven as a result.
Alanf is certainly in a position to know whether he can or cannot prove his claims. If he cannot then what else are we to think but that he purposefully libelled Rutherford?
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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Alanf, if it is clear from my posts that I am an idiot then I cannot say what your posts say about you. You give no names - nothing! You have not even one shred of evidence for an objective party to verify. Instead you give us hearsay from nameless persons and claim that we'll get the scoop in not-yet-published books!
You committed libel with actual malice.
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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Larc, you must be joking. You have evidence but you won't offer it? Get outa here! How about a name? You can at least produce that right? Then we can trace this person's history to Bethel, Rutherford, and so on. Well? Are you going to cough of the evidence or go the way of AlanF?
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JW Organization On Autopilot
by AlanF inthese days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
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There should be a law against typing while intoxicated. Then at least you'd have about an hour a day to type your junk.
Mr. AlanF, care to provide some facts for your junk? On what factual basis do you claim Rutherford was an adulterer?
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To JanH
by bigboi injanh:.
janh, i would like to offer you my sincerest apology for calling you a nazi in kent's apology thread.
i must say i didn't intend for it to be taken as a slur against your race.
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Ven, I merely spoke in reference to what I saw in this thread. I do not know you very well so it is entirely possible that my remarks were not accurate. But they were situational and I think that I rightly picked up on a hesitancy on your part to come right out and tell Jan what you really think. It's okay to restrain yourself according to how you see fit but I wanted to make a point that I think is valid, and that is that Jan is not very different from the org. or other intolerant groups or people. I mean, check him out! He doesn't care if one apologizes which shows a lack of concern for the feelings of others (almost a disdain for their feelings) and if you make any negative comments about what he says, if you disagree with him at all, he is offended by it and usually treats you with little or no respect from that point forward.
Intolerance is wrong and Jan needs to be made aware of his actions. I don't think he knows what he's doing. It's likely a lingering product from his past. But it's better to get these things out in the open.
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To JanH
by bigboi injanh:.
janh, i would like to offer you my sincerest apology for calling you a nazi in kent's apology thread.
i must say i didn't intend for it to be taken as a slur against your race.
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Ven, I realize that having Jan as a exJW buddy makes it hard for you to come right out and say what you mean, and that is that is a jerk. If you did that (and you'd be right by the way) then regardless of how friendly you two have been in the past Jan would turn on you faster than the WT kicked him out of the org.
He is only your friend if you agree with him and do not make any negative remarks about his outrageous behavior. Does that sound familiar? Exactly. Jan is basically the exact same as the org. he left in terms of intolerance. You would be much better off speaking your mind about Jan the same way you do about the org. and then you'll see that there is no difference at all in terms of attitude.
Psychologically speaking, Jan is crying for help even though he is not actually aware of it. But it will not do him any good to cower to his verbal assault the way you do. Let him know how you really feel! Because he'll sure give you hell when you do and then you'll know how he really feels!
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To JanH
by bigboi injanh:.
janh, i would like to offer you my sincerest apology for calling you a nazi in kent's apology thread.
i must say i didn't intend for it to be taken as a slur against your race.
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Jan, you write as if you really think you have any credibility. Maybe among your "friends," but who doesn't? That is why they are your friends, get it? It takes much more to gain credibility from those who are not your friends. You show here, once again, that you are intolerant of those who disagree with you and in so doing you reveal a deeply rooted insecurity that shows you've got problems, REAL problems.
I realize you have a fractured psychology from your experience, but that is a problem you must deal with not run from. Your _pattern_ of behavior is not acceptable on any level. Sure, if you made the occasional mistake or slip of the tongue and apologized, that'd be one thing. But you are not capable of serious apology nor of accepting that of others. You just demonstrated this.
Mishanh