Posts by mrmagic

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Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

by mrmagic in

someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

mrmagic

LoisLane and LongHair you both have made a point that I did not think of earlier - which is that for JW culture it's much worse to be a "snitch" and a whistleblower than to actually be a pedophile. The pedophile naturally has an interest in keeping their pedophilia and the 2 witness rule secret. So this is in line with the JWs. But the whistleblower may "stumble" "worldly" people out of "the truth" by exposing the pedophilia, especiallly if they are/were a victim.

Did not think about this, but it is absolutely true. Thanks for that.

As for the people who want to disagree that the incidents of child sexual abuse within Jehovah's Witnesses is not higher than Catholic church or other religions, cool. Your thoughts are valid.

Everyone's thoughts are valid. Have found that those that are in a hurry to disagree and prove you wrong, often either fizzle out or end up bringing some valuable new piece of information to the table. :)

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Jehovah's people are not happy people

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

mrmagic

Can tell you that I was depressed the entire time in with the JW's and yes, they were on pills and all kinds of things. Knew countless people who suicided, others were on pills and suffered anxiety. It's all an act. There are really very few people if any that you could ever call friends.

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Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

by mrmagic in

someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

mrmagic

Hi John Davis, here try this

You'll need to google a bit to get the #'s, but it shouldn't take you more than 30 to 45 minutes to find them and verfify them with at least 3 different credible *outside* sources.

Keep in mind child sex abuse is extremely underreported and when you're dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses, they have systems in place to reward pedophilia with the 2 witness rule and the pervasive Serpico Syndrome that seems to run through Jehovah's Witnesses bones.

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My awakening and concern

by Issa in

good evening everyone, i go by issa.

as many former ex-witnesses, i "woke up" from believing that the jw org is the "truth".

this happened during this month thanks to information from jw-facts and youtube videos about ex-witnesses' experience in this org.

mrmagic

Welcome to your new found Freedom!

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Gaslighting

by mann377 in

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friends

ever heard of it?

i have but never realized the full meaning.

this is the tactic the wtbs uses to control people.

mrmagic

Oh yea, check out In Sheep's CLothing by George K. Simon, will show you all about gas lighting and the covert-aggression toxic people and orgs like JW use.

Vatican Scandals : Cardinal Pell - Most Hated Man in Australian?

by mrmagic in

here's cardinal pell, who has been charged with historic child sex abuse from multiple complainants.

at the time of this testimony, he was under trial by australian royal commission for a long history of alleged child sex abuse/pedophilia coverups within the church.

he has no concern for children being sexually abused.

mrmagic

Here's Cardinal Pell, who has been charged with historic child sex abuse from multiple complainants. At the time of this testimony, he was under trial by Australian Royal Commission for a long history of alleged child sex abuse/pedophilia coverups within the church. He has no concern for children being sexually abused. Could this be why he is called the most hated man in Australia by Kelso Law firm and many others? He is 3rd most powerful man in the Catholic church and obviously this scandal has hit the core, the very top of the church - the Vatican, but google it a bit. There' are other scandals. Drug (Cocaine) fueled orgies with police walking in on sex acts between church bishops and other men (Google that)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fwxASd87AY

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Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

by mrmagic in

someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

mrmagic

Here's the link http://kelsolawyers.com/au/news-item/will-happen-australias-hated-man-george-pell/

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Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

by mrmagic in

someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

mrmagic

Someone sent this link of Kelso Law Firm and their blog post on Cardinal Pell being Australia's most hated man. The implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the Vatican. The Catholic Church is no doubt much larger than Jehovah's Witnesses, however, the JW's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the Catholic Church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).

The main thread tying Cardinal Pell and the other Vatican scandals to Jehovah's Witnesses is the Australian Royal Commission. Seems like there is a definite political interest in holding this man accountable for the Prime Minister, with the pressure being super ON.

Who'd have thought, little old unknown Australian Royal Commission.....

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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

mrmagic

It's spiritual rape or spiritual molestation of the mind and spirit. Attempts to infiltrate a person's subconscious, in order to get them to do socially unacceptable and often illegal things on a subtle basis for control purposes. How far can you take it is the name of the game. Not sure as to how effective this is, though.

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The Watchtower Database of Child Molesters.

by WHATSGOINGON in

hi everyone.. this is just a thought, while reading bill bowen's silent lambs website i was interested to find out how long ago the figure of 23,000 molesters was published.. well it was in 2002.. in the spring of 2002, silentlambs was contacted by three different sources who claimed to have connected with people inside the headquarters of the watchtower bible & tract society of new york, located in patterson , new york .

these insiders provided silentlambs contacts with a computer data base number of 23,720 child molesters on file there.

so as the spring of 2002 was just over 15 years ago i wonder how many more have been added to the list ?.

mrmagic

Bill Bowen commented to me some months back about the database being 50,000+ now. Did not get a chance to ask for more verification, but you can contact him and ask him about it.

In my personal speculation, based on research and study of institutional systems/business systems, the list may/may not serve as leverage and profit on child trafficking, as well as a method to keep members compliant in not so legal actions.

Another reason is the Jesus Manuel Cano case, the bethel elder and traveling missionary who was busted for 300 child porn DVD's and CD's in his Bethel room.

If a pedophile, molester is reported to the list, he/she now may have a higher interest in staying with the organization and not speaking out against it ever, as it would mean telling on themselves. In addition, it now gives the org leverage to make him/her compliant in enabling this further. You can get him to do all your bidding for you, under the implied emotional/spiritual blackmail.

Also, the list shows the way to the already molested children, who are silenced. They are already being molested and silenced, so the org can send an overseer who has already been on the list and offer him his choice of kids within that congregation. Think about the interest a JW pedophile elder/overseer would have in giving as much $$ donation to the org that has protected him with the 2 witness rule and gives him access to children who are already groomed and brainwashed into accepting it and blaming themselves for it and keeping silent.

I think the big money comes from their investments into war technology, tobacco, and child trafficking. Same thing for the Catholic Church. My two cents.