Isnt it in Daniel that it says "In the last daystrue knowledge would become abundant?
Well lo and behold!
That was a great wrap up of important milestones also John!
15 years ago ceo scott mcnealy said those famous words; you have zero privacy anyway.
everyone has a phone with a camera.
every day someone leaks a sex video.
Isnt it in Daniel that it says "In the last daystrue knowledge would become abundant?
Well lo and behold!
That was a great wrap up of important milestones also John!
ask them a question can i give return to jehovah brochure to a df person.?
dead silence on other end, then he said uh hold on brother long pause music then ok bro have you discussed this with your local elders answer no.
bro what cong do you attend?
poopie22 minutes agoThen he asked when was last time you were out in service i said thats none of your business.
and that matters how?
poopie
This is so fun
Not for them I imagine LOL! For them it is like trying to find the corner in a round room.
Maybe you helped point out the futility with your good questions! Well done.
dark were my thoughts when i drew these after losing emma.....she was so beautiful...i thought i might say more with art than complaining......
i don't know if gb member g jackson really meant the gb were 'god', with his 'guardians of doctrine' comment at the arc.
it's nice and conspiracy to think so, i suppose.
i honestly don't know.
Hey Punk!
Im glad you brought this up...I was amazed when I heard him utter that phrase frankly. If you have been in the truth long enough you know the cadence of the things they say as well as the "language". This didnt fit. This sounded elegant and worldly wise and deep nothing like the way the Org talks ever!
Because of that, it stuck in my mind. I kept wondering if maybe there was more to this man than I thought.
Nope.
Did you happen to see a post by OrphanCrow somewhere on a thread that this phrase was first uttered by the Pope in a speech he gave just recently (2014)?
So it came from the mind of one of the speech writers for the Pope. Someone who has imagination spiritually and the latitude to express things creatively.
Once again the GB has hacked something.
tough to watch this whole video, the way he talks gets pretty annoying, especially after the rc hearings:.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwban_201506_1_video.
go to around 8:20 where he gets into the pronunciation of jehovah.
Thanks for giving those times so I didnt have to sit though the whole thing...
he looks SO goofy...he has a naturally smirky way that his features land when he tries to look animated.
Unfortunate when you consider he is one of the "better" GB members for them to parade out for public consumption.
" only the good die young".
or at least they remain eternally young and heroic particularly if they died for you.
the trouble is we can outgrow our hero worship and our opinions of that person can change.. this is what has happened to me with my childhood friend and my hero jesus.
You asked a fair question so I will give a fair answer....
I dont know!
I am trying to work past our "break-up phase" me, God, Jesus, organized religion, etc.
At this point it is all one big ball of wax. I am unraveling it as I move through my days. I read the opinions of others here and it helps me to isolate my own feelings more clearly.
For example, I already know I dont want this experience (being a JW) to leave me reactionary. I dont want to bounce automatically in to being a jaded bitter person just because I was suckered once.
I want to explore ALL lines of thought including the possibility that there is no God/Jesus/ spirit life.
BUT this comes with a proviso....I want to explore new lines of thinking with kind intelligent people.
So thank you for being brave enough to put your opinion out there for me to weigh and consider. I really appreciate your viewpoint - especially the part about how other notable characters can and indeed have added to our dimension of thought on how to live a life.
Duly noted!
and to DJS - yes I do see you being sweet! You sweetheart you : ) and thank you for that...it means I can read your post instead of automatically avoiding it by scrolling right past with no look see. I can learn much from you and want to be able to read your words - so thanks!
as some of you might have read last week, my mother had extremely low hemoglobin and without it, she would have died.
i have somehow managed to bring her to reason and accept the transfusion.
it saved her life.
Hi cookiemaster,
First, Im glad your mom is feeling better! You remain an awesome son in my book and most definitely in hers...
As for the D.A. Just to get technical for a minute. The latest Elders secret book contains a different way for it to be handled than the book before,
If the person capitulated in a moment of weakness or is sorry they are NOT to be dealt with judicially.
Given that, plus the rough way they handled the whole thing, I think you have a really good basis for a law suit if they press ahead.
You wont actually have to go through with it because once the elders call the Org for direction they will be told to drop it.
That way it can be up to your mom if she wants to continue her relationship with this organization or not.
Her choice. As it should be.
i made a quick run to lowes to buy some paint and ran into a brother.
he is one of those elders that is very, very, petty.
if he drops by your house unexpected and notices that your kids are watching one of the star wars movies, he will counsel you for allowing your kids to watch any movie that has to do with war he will then make sure you are not recommended for any privilege.
I love you, / You love me / We're a happy family /
just humming along.....
Great post John!
i've been lurking on the board for almost a year now and i think i'm ready to come out of hiding (although, i'm so nervous as i type this).
i'm not ready to share everything about my story, but the basics are that i'm a born-in, elder's kid, baptized as a teenager because i was tired of hearing people ask me "all your friends are baptized, when are you going to get baptized?
", married an unbeliever (was df, but came back shortly after) and we have two kids.
want to thank everyone that's posted on the other thread the advise is much appreciated and i will look at all the ideas before i proceed.
i wanted to talk about the advise concerning stopping my kids from going to meetings and or stopping the jw's from studying with my kids.
first a little background on my situation.. im still married and still living with my wife.
I think that being true to oneself becomes something different when one becomes a parent.
It then means that for the next ____ years, you will seek the best interests of that child ahead of and before anything.
Your plan sounds wise to me CrazyGuy.
Who was it that said - hold your friends close and your enemies even closer?