awhile back, about a year and a half ago, when i was starting to wake up, i explained to my mom that when the circuit overseer is in town, they schedule shepherding calls after lunch, not because they care, but because they dont want to work door to door in the hot summer or cold winter.
and they know that a prepared call means some nice hot chocolate and cookies or some ice cold tea and snacks.
i remember her looking at me kind of funny so i ended the conversation and left it at that, and never brought it up again.
I'll tell you what else they do during afternoon shepherding calls....usually the C.O, and the COBE or another well placed elder make these calls. In between. they gossip about the other elders and the rest of the Hall and that is as they say.....when the "real" business gets done.
It is NOT at the elders meeting on Friday night.
so, my sibling and i are the only ones still in.
as i mentioned in one of my posts i am fading out.
the other half of my family are either df, da or stopped going years ago.
I am happy for you Beautiful Mind.
You put that question to him very delicately and non judgmentally. Thanks for sharing how you approached it.
this may sound insane but i literally have blood on my hands as i have just come home from a counselling session that went wrong...i wanted to collate all that has happened and record it...hospital policy is against it.
i said "what am i alive for then if not to tell the truth" she tut tutted and i walked out sadly in despair.. when i got to the ground floor there was a young girl screaming her head off.
she was afraid, that is all she was...........afraid.
Juliette you have touched us all today.
Thank you for being you and I just want to add that I was reading your story and thinking how perfect each thing you said to Riley was.
Sometimes things align with such precision that it takes our breath away.
That is what happened today between you and that lost young girl. No one could have done better than you did.
You like music I see...
heres a line from a song I sing to a special little boy in my life - only today I am thinking this applies to you,
.....how wonderful life is while your in the world.....
15 years ago ceo scott mcnealy said those famous words; you have zero privacy anyway.
everyone has a phone with a camera.
every day someone leaks a sex video.
Isnt it in Daniel that it says "In the last daystrue knowledge would become abundant?
Well lo and behold!
That was a great wrap up of important milestones also John!
ask them a question can i give return to jehovah brochure to a df person.?
dead silence on other end, then he said uh hold on brother long pause music then ok bro have you discussed this with your local elders answer no.
bro what cong do you attend?
poopie22 minutes agoThen he asked when was last time you were out in service i said thats none of your business.
and that matters how?
poopie
This is so fun
Not for them I imagine LOL! For them it is like trying to find the corner in a round room.
Maybe you helped point out the futility with your good questions! Well done.
dark were my thoughts when i drew these after losing emma.....she was so beautiful...i thought i might say more with art than complaining......
i don't know if gb member g jackson really meant the gb were 'god', with his 'guardians of doctrine' comment at the arc.
it's nice and conspiracy to think so, i suppose.
i honestly don't know.
Hey Punk!
Im glad you brought this up...I was amazed when I heard him utter that phrase frankly. If you have been in the truth long enough you know the cadence of the things they say as well as the "language". This didnt fit. This sounded elegant and worldly wise and deep nothing like the way the Org talks ever!
Because of that, it stuck in my mind. I kept wondering if maybe there was more to this man than I thought.
Nope.
Did you happen to see a post by OrphanCrow somewhere on a thread that this phrase was first uttered by the Pope in a speech he gave just recently (2014)?
So it came from the mind of one of the speech writers for the Pope. Someone who has imagination spiritually and the latitude to express things creatively.
Once again the GB has hacked something.
tough to watch this whole video, the way he talks gets pretty annoying, especially after the rc hearings:.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwban_201506_1_video.
go to around 8:20 where he gets into the pronunciation of jehovah.
Thanks for giving those times so I didnt have to sit though the whole thing...
he looks SO goofy...he has a naturally smirky way that his features land when he tries to look animated.
Unfortunate when you consider he is one of the "better" GB members for them to parade out for public consumption.
" only the good die young".
or at least they remain eternally young and heroic particularly if they died for you.
the trouble is we can outgrow our hero worship and our opinions of that person can change.. this is what has happened to me with my childhood friend and my hero jesus.
You asked a fair question so I will give a fair answer....
I dont know!
I am trying to work past our "break-up phase" me, God, Jesus, organized religion, etc.
At this point it is all one big ball of wax. I am unraveling it as I move through my days. I read the opinions of others here and it helps me to isolate my own feelings more clearly.
For example, I already know I dont want this experience (being a JW) to leave me reactionary. I dont want to bounce automatically in to being a jaded bitter person just because I was suckered once.
I want to explore ALL lines of thought including the possibility that there is no God/Jesus/ spirit life.
BUT this comes with a proviso....I want to explore new lines of thinking with kind intelligent people.
So thank you for being brave enough to put your opinion out there for me to weigh and consider. I really appreciate your viewpoint - especially the part about how other notable characters can and indeed have added to our dimension of thought on how to live a life.
Duly noted!
and to DJS - yes I do see you being sweet! You sweetheart you : ) and thank you for that...it means I can read your post instead of automatically avoiding it by scrolling right past with no look see. I can learn much from you and want to be able to read your words - so thanks!
as some of you might have read last week, my mother had extremely low hemoglobin and without it, she would have died.
i have somehow managed to bring her to reason and accept the transfusion.
it saved her life.
Hi cookiemaster,
First, Im glad your mom is feeling better! You remain an awesome son in my book and most definitely in hers...
As for the D.A. Just to get technical for a minute. The latest Elders secret book contains a different way for it to be handled than the book before,
If the person capitulated in a moment of weakness or is sorry they are NOT to be dealt with judicially.
Given that, plus the rough way they handled the whole thing, I think you have a really good basis for a law suit if they press ahead.
You wont actually have to go through with it because once the elders call the Org for direction they will be told to drop it.
That way it can be up to your mom if she wants to continue her relationship with this organization or not.
Her choice. As it should be.
