http://www.jw-archive.org/post/128775480828/frederick-w-franz-and-september-5-1975#disqus_thread
I dont know who that James Thomas Rook is but I really like his posts!
I saw you there too StarTrekAngel!
Thanks for sharing this..
I have a really good friend that reads there and has even posted his pics there. I love that he is getting some real truth and it doesnt have to come from me.
(although he gets a little from me - I have to be careful)
Could this be one family?
Daughter with her parents and grandparents off to the side?
witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.
everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?
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No throwing the bouquet at weddings..
no throwing rice either. Throwing must be "of the Devil" since it couldnt be the pagan - ness of it elsewise wedding rings would be taboo, right?
Oops. Sorry. That would be reasonable and consistent. I forgot myself!
So where were we...no rice, no bouquet throwing...ah yes..pagan rings ok.
No toasting by the best man, no garter toss, no "suggestive" music. Keep non suggestive music low volume (such fun dancing that is!)
The tradition of a money tree is WRONG but an envelope with a card and money inside is RIGHT (isnt the paper of the cards made from trees?)
No being alone before the wedding - chaperoned is the order of the day, HOWEVER - once you walk down that aisle, listen to that elder drone on, say "I do" and eat some cake, you are allowed to go have sex like a rabbit as many times as you want.
The paperwork that makes you legally wedded will sit on the wedding officiants desk until the mail goes out on Monday which means (if the wedding was on a Saturday) a good 48 hours of sex before anything legal happens.
But that is not of any concern...just dont throw rice or play that music loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.
everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?
?.
Dint forget that they cant celebrate Halloween except for buying the candy the next day at sale prices - the candy becomes clean over night.
The same applies to Easter bunny eating (see above)
although I have seen LOTS of pioneers buy Cadbury eggs while out in field service - not sure how that slipped through the cracks hmm...
Then there is no baking your turkey till Friday at Thanksgiving....and NO Christmas presents UNLESS you get a free turkey or ham from work and then it is ok....
a Xmas bonus is ok too (see above)
No drinking champagne on New Years Eve and NO firecrackers..
drinking the minute you get back to your motel after an assembly Holy Day is ok however...
the same with going out to eat right after the Holy Assembly Day,,,,be careful - if you take a visiting Bethel speaker out to eat they will KILL your alcohol budget for dinner by imbibing heavily.
No firecrackers on 4th of July (U.S.) but the "buy them on sale and do it later" rule applies here also (see above)
Picnics are ok on the 4th but you must NOT have any red, white or blue food combinations.
Drinking is ok on the 4th of July (unlike New Years Eve but the firecracker rule carries over)
any questions?
so i see my uber cousins from bethel are flying around the world again, this time in brazil to instruct the brothers on construction purchases in central and south america!
lots of pics with them partying with locals and being wined and dined, something the rank and file will never know!
Yes..
meanwhile on the September broadcast we are shown missionaries trying to get in a small boat to go preach and others walk up the side of a hill through dense foliage to reach people to preach to,
a source has informed me that a relative who's in london bethel has said that a number of bethelites there are very uncomfortable and embarrassed because the branch has received "quite a few letters" querying why members of the governing body were wearing flashy rings and jewellery on some of the monthly broadcasts, but on the broadcast when the g.b.
asked for more money from the congregations - their gold and jewellery was not on display!.
will probably emerge one day wearing sackcloth, begging for yet more donations..
Ah, so you have done that whole mind boggling job too!
This past year. a sister was hurling fruit at the wall behind the table because she was mad someone didnt cut it up the way she thought they should....
but she is one of the HAPPIEST PEOPLE ON EARTH!
a source has informed me that a relative who's in london bethel has said that a number of bethelites there are very uncomfortable and embarrassed because the branch has received "quite a few letters" querying why members of the governing body were wearing flashy rings and jewellery on some of the monthly broadcasts, but on the broadcast when the g.b.
asked for more money from the congregations - their gold and jewellery was not on display!.
will probably emerge one day wearing sackcloth, begging for yet more donations..
Hi Steve, yes it is just one more aspect of being the happiest people on earth!
(not - oh SO not)
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
So in reading along, I think I have one point clarified?
Sanderson is part of the overlap?
As to why we analyze this...I can see the fun and the challenge but also many of us have people we love inside that burning building called the Org.
I for one am looking for reasoning points here to use. Thank you all for providing them.
first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
So if Franz was born in 1892 he was anointed by 1914? For some reason I didnt realize he was so young.
I remember back in the 60s it was very frowned on for anyone young to think they were anointed.
That was the province of the older folks.
