Posts by millie210

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Hey from Ohio

by sissyb in

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hello all - i most likely won't post too often but want to introduce myself.

i've read this board for a long time and feel like i know some of you!

i was a third gen born-in (ne ohio), and half-heartedly believed until i was in middle school.

millie210

Hi Sissy,

So glad you posted and we know you are here. Look forward to hearing some of your stories!

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i have been lurking on the site for a few months and thought it about time i plucked up the courage to step out of the shadows and say hello.. i am in the process of fading after realizing all is not right with the organization i had trusted implicitly for over 40 years.

there have always been 'truths' i have struggled to accept entirely, even as a child, but was confident that trusting in jehovah, building my faith and remaining patient would be enough to settle any nagging doubts that remained, so i pushed any inconsistencies to the back of my mind and concentrated on being the best witness that i could be.. over the last few years, however, i have been preoccupied with a number of crises in my family and stepping back slightly from 'theocratic' activity has allowed me to re evaluate a number of concerns and research sources other than the sanitized wt publications.. my eyes are now wide open - i found things which have appalled me and left me feeling extremely let down and disappointed by people i had really trusted.. i tried gently raising a few subjects with my mum (who was baptized early '70s and still remains a staunch wt supporter) but she will hear no criticism of the organization.

i understand this because the best part of her life has been invested in the religion and to acknowledge it may have got things wrong would be to recognize the last 40 years have been a vain waste.

millie210

Hi Contra and a warm welcome to you!

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Proof the earth can be flat

by slimboyfat in

"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.

is it a dark square or a light square?

millie210

Hey Slim Boy, check this out!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/12129549/Earth-is-actually-two-planets-scientists-conclude.html

It is evidently not "new" news in the science world but it was new to me!

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Just got an apology from an exJW

by Village Idiot in

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so i'm back from the store walking to my apartment, over a hundred units in the complex - all jws and ex-jws - and i see someone talking to an ex-jw neighbor of mine.

she turns around and says "now there's some else i have to apologize to".. she identified herself as an old neighbor who used to play as a jw child right by my place.

she had told me how she was raised to consider me and all the ex-jws in the apartment complex as evil and thought she had to apologize for that.. made my day.

millie210

What a nice experience to have Village Idiot.

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Proof the earth can be flat

by slimboyfat in

"our perception of reality has more to do with what is going on in here (our brain) than what's going on out there (in the world).".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g221y.

is it a dark square or a light square?

millie210

So is this thread about perspective?

Is it about who we consider the ultimate authority or answer giver?

I dont mean on this forum, I am referring to where we source out our information in life to form our own world views.

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New Light: Clap when it is given a Reinstatement ad

by TheTruthBR in

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a new letter was posted in jw.org to the elders who are under the brazilian branch:.

january 25, 2016to all bodies of eldersref .

: clap when given a readmission addear brothers:we would like to inform you about a recent adjustment.

millie210

With all the problems that exist in the Org today, this is what they are amending?

This is what they are focusing on?

This?

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New here, never baptised (thank god)!

by olongapo joe in

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just signed up and wanted to introduce myself.

i had 1 x-mas and 1 birthday before both my parents joined the jw's around 1966 or 67 being 1 year old i don't remember them (the holidays), to this day holidays are nothing to me (thanks jw's).

i never really believed the bible or jw literature.

millie210

Welcome Joe!

I personally get a kick out of sarcasm most of the time! Here is a little sign I thought you might get a laugh out of. Consider it a welcome to the forum gift for you!

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My Fellow Elders and other Animals

by Lostandfound in

part 1 of some memories.

i was an elder in the cong and had a young family and a demanding job about an hours drive away.

i suppose most elder bodies had vocal passengers and some workers, literally pne elder could explain in detail how to claim benefits rather than work so you would think with no job ties he could have all the time in the world to help...wrong!.

millie210

Very touching story and what a fine job you did of providing comfort and human compassion.

It has to be a relief to not have to deal with brothers like "brother no work".

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Conclusion

by Esmeralda001 in

i decided to put an end to my affiliation with the jws for good.

this decision is not the result of an irrational impulse.

it is quite the contrary.

millie210

Esmeralda001
I am assuming that my shunning experience is nothing compared to what you guys have experienced when you got disfellowshipped. I have much respect for you. I'd never be able to go through the reinstatement process. Yuck.

I think in some ways yours is worse! You didnt even do anything except get on someones bad side.
It always hurts to be excluded from a group and it also hurts to be misunderstood. That said, you are better off out than in. So in a weirdly odd way the elderette has done you a service.
If you dressed too nicely, had too much education or too good of a job, are physically attractive and/or young and single and you did not grovel? You were doomed!
Any combination of the above would make you a threat.

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"Crises of Conscience"

by Olivia Wilde in

i just finished reading chapters 11-12 of raymond franz, crises of conscience & i must admit, i am pretty strong person, however the way ed dunlap & ray franz were treated left me crying, i had tears rolling done my eyes driving home from work on friday... & how ed was kicked out by wt, left me feel soo disgusted & outraged.... it was very obvious he needed to stay at bethel because of his age & medical conditions but i admired he didn't compromise his conscious, it's sickening to me how cold & callous these men can treat a christian after all his service.... & of course ray franz situation was no exception either, the witch hunt they did to get him out was, well, there's just isnt enough adjectives to describe their disgusting motives against him... he was 59 yrs old trying to make a honest living with his wife & for them to go after him was devious & demon like.... i'm soo grateful i came across this book & i wished i had much much sooner.... i know god will reward both ed dunlap & franz plus many many more who have been unjustly & unchristian like treated during that time & this time, sooo sickening.....i still feel very much upset & emotional over the whole thing .... i never met any of them & then yet i feel deep christian love for them......

millie210

I hadnt really thought about so many informational resources only being available it the English language but that makes sense.

It seems that part of the appeal of a fundamentalist religion is the struggle against "something".

There is meaning in struggle. It reduces everything to its simplest parts and provides instant gratification in that just by the struggle - one is "winning".

The English congregations have lost that for the most part. They are getting more and more mainstream with the lethargy and the blase social sense of "gathering together".

In my area, people are flocking to the alternative language groups. Perhaps it is a middle ground between the English halls and leaving all together?