Posts by millie210

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So can you pray for others that are not JW's ? Or only JW's

by tor1500 in

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i'm a witness, so i need to know...can we pray for someone that isn't a jw.

reason i ask, once a friend of mine was going for an operation.

i asked an elder could he pray with her before she goes into the hospital.

millie210

tor1500
I really want to say to the Elder....you told me that you can't pray for this lady & here it is in Black & White & from your God/Governing Body, saying...Jehovah is pleased when you pray for others....& after that statement was a period..It didn't add a coma & say, Only others that are your brothers, sisters or studies...

Hi Tor,

Great thread. I can identify with so much of what has been posted.

Can you weave a comment on what you KNOW to be true in to a talk you are giving?

If you are not on the school, then can you weave it in to a comment during the comments section of the midweek meeting?

I noticed there is a part coming up in May about how to use the JW library....

it would be fun to comment that you had this question and then use the scriptures from this thread to show research from their own library that you were right!

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Someone Can't Add at Bethel - Goof on Tonight's Part

by thedepressedsoul in

“are you using jw library?”: (15 min.

) begin with afive-minute discussion of the article.

then play andbriefly discuss the video start using “jw library.”afterward, do the same with the videos downloadand manage publications and customize the readingexperience.

millie210

I dont think anyone is flying the plane as far as quality control.

They are in a tizzy over money right now and throwing spiritual food at the yapping masses is just a side thought.

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The "apostacy stigmatisation" of doing research!

by stuckinarut2 in

a thought occurred that the way the society has stigmatised the doing of external research by witnesses, and labelling any such questioning as "apostate", is tragic.. no doubt, in every other aspect of life, we research things before making decisions.

eg, if making a purchase, we go online and check reviews etc to check the product out.

we don't just trust the words of the marketing department.

millie210

That is a good point Blondie made about the shift since the early 80s. I have seen that play out in the look and feel of the literature and in conversations but I hadnt put it together as to why....

The ONLY good thing I can see about the dumbing down of the JWs is in the natural progression of things, you will end up with only dummies.

Thinking people will not be attracted in to joining a religion of dummies even with the shiny hook of he literature cart and the veneer of international brotherhood.

Eventually the content of the "hooks" will drop (it already is) and the hooks wont work either.

So dull ineffective hooks and if a person happens to stumble in to a KH then a lot of people who are in the lowest echelon of intellectual ability, all gathered together.

alrighty then!

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The Watchtower's Medical Bible - the HLC handbook

by rebel8 in

posting this pm at the request of orphan crow:.

from a medical virtual library in spain:

"fernando martinez guerrero, the liaison committee hospitals of jehovah's witnesses , has made the library a collection of abstracts of scientific articles related to blood conservation techniques and perioperative ( blood conservation techniques and perioperative planning ).

millie210

Thank you for posting this.

I miss OrphanCrow and her formidable research skills!

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A memoir in the making - good read

by stephanie61092 in

hello friends,.

i was on he ex jw reddit page the other day and came across a posting from a woman who has become a successful author.

she was raised a jw in new york and pioneered at one point in her life.

millie210

Great link, thanks!

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Waking People Up With Well Thought Out Comments

by JW_Rogue in

is it possible to have an effect from the inside?

with well thought comments that reveal more of the history of the organization?

the next book we study will be "god's kingdom rules!

millie210

Begin with the end in mind.

Then work back to where you are now.

I want to end up with the freedom to move laterally around in my family and social circle.

I am also completely done with the JWs as having ANY truth other than the common things everyone else possesses.

Ironically, that makes it easier to not feel so much.

I have been doing an ultra slow fade and allowing the train to stop at the station at times.

I determine the times. Strategically. Most bang for my buck times.

Recently a family here had a house fire. I was the thrid or fourth one to arrive after it became known. I brought an envelope of cash. Not a stupendous amount but what I thought would help. As the house where they were temporarily staying filled with JWs I quietly moved my way (through hellos and hugs etc) out to my car to leave.

One of the more mouthy of the corrupt 3 elders in our Hall was standing nearby. He said "you dont want to attend meetings but your always showing up to be "helpful".

I ignored that and opened my car...

then he pushed his luck to far and said " you think your some type of Robin Hood"

to which I replied, "then does that would make you the sheriff of Nottingham"?

And I drove off.

Gotta love those moments when they just fall in your lap like that.

My point is there is now one right way to do this. You determine your course and try your best not to make emotional decisions but strategic ones instead.

Be kind. Be smart. Do it your way.

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Share your home remedies for congestion and earache...please?

by GrreatTeacher in

the extraordinarily high pollen count has finally done me in.

i started with head congestion and coughing on friday and have steadily felt worse.

i now have an earache and a heavy feeling in my chest.. yes, i do have a doctor's appointment for tomorrow, as i'm sure the advice would be!

millie210

Put some Vicks vapor rub on your feet. Put on thick socks and go to bed.

It helps!

Hugs to you Grrreat. Feel better!

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Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

by Divergent in

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urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

millie210

Brokeback Watchtower
Who the hell in their right mind would want to be a C O low wages and all the kinds of bull shit you got to put up with from a bunch of delusional old saps GB who can't manage a business even with slave labor at the heir disposal. What a dead end job for this big time loser poster boy for the borganization!

Good thing he didnt become a District Oversser! LOL

OR a Bethelite!

C.O. is all theyve got left to brag about.

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A big thanks to all you good good people

by aboveusonlysky in

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friends

"when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies" jefferson airplane.

until that is you find websites like this!

i want to say a big thank you to all of you for everything i've learned here, as well as jwfacts, jwsurvey, coc, isocf etc.. i'm a born in and i spent more than two decades of my adult life in full time 'service' for the (b)org.

millie210

Cruelty of elders - not towards me personally but towards others I respect and admire- is what woke me up too.

I especially like the way you put it when you said its the system that trains the elders not just the elders themselves.

That says it much better than I had been able to frame the thought myself.

Thank you for giving words to that for me and Im sure others.

Glad you are here!

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Why haven't you been to the meetings?

by Zana in

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friends

some cong-member asked my wife this question (in the street, stopping her on her bicycle) in a rather police-like fashion.

i wasn't there so i don't know her immediate reaction and response, but she got very upset afterwards and one day later this still occupies her mind.

i believe it's an emotional mix of anger, sadness, shame and guilt.. she doesn't like this intrusion in her privacy from some jws and on the next occasion she will try to make this person respect her boundaries (or just ignore her).

millie210

Zana
How can I capitalize on this (trying to wake her up just a little bit more)? And how can I make her feel less shame and guilt? There were several reasons she didn't go to some meetings recently. Either somebody in the family was sick or we had better and more fun things to do as a family (which I encourage of course).

Well a couple thoughts come to mind...

on the shame and guilt part of your question...

tell her Jehovah understands why she hasnt made the meetings. He sees her heart and knows she is a good person.

Tell her the amount of meetings a week is a man nade invention not a God made one. After all, a few years ago we wouldnt dream of skipping a book study mid week and now its ok! Same with a four day assembly - now its 3 and thats ok!

Public talk was an hour - wouldnt dream of leaving half way through...now its a half hour and thats OK!

The times and dates and lengths of meetings will always change. And that is all ok.

The brothers at Bethel farm used to skip meetings when the orchards were ready for picking and that was GB sanctioned.

No one talks much about that but there are many, many reasons why skipping meetings is perfectly ok and has zero to do with Jehovah.

That chinese brother in prison for years was never at a meeting and he kept his own personal faith strong and was held up as a sterling example.

If you sit the reason he didnt make the meetings aside, the point remains, one can be as spiritual as one desires even with years of "missed" meetings.

That is the take away from his experience.

As for the first part of your question, the more time she is away from the constant litany of indoctrination, the more her eyes will open naturally. Its like letting in fresh air, so to speak