Very classy job you did there wozza.
I think you left an impression they will continue to think about.
i'd like to relate an experience i had yesterday with a couple of jw's "working" with a cart yesterday.. been coming to this site for many years and these days i don't feel i've got much to contribute ,but i was out yesterday doing some voluntary work for a friend who has gone on an overseas trip .travelling around my local seaside area doing the job at hand ,i came across a couple of jw's sitting in a shelter overlooking the beach and had their trolley propped against a large public rubbish bin ,it was actually hard to see ithe trolley from most angles - whatever happened to lifting the basket to show the light stuff ...oh well .the large carpark was pretty empty except for us ,we've had pretty wet weather here lately ,bad storms and here they were set up for a days witnessing rugged up with wind and spitting rain ,i sort of thought " well that's dedication " ....that was my first thought then i pulled myself together and then thought "if i wanted to get some time in and not have to work at it too hard this maybe the place to go if i was a jw still".. well i finished my pickup and looked over at the two and realised i'd read other's experiences about approaching the cart people and wondered if talking to them would be of any benefit as i had witnessed this area for many years and my stance against the wts for hiding molestation of children is well known ,i thought, and they avoid me like the plague.. they were'nt familiar to me so i went up to them and introduced myself and quickly let them know who i was and what i am doing now as regards jw's.
they were a married couple middle aged been in for a long time and could relate to changes in the org very well to pre 1975 when i had first contact.
they pretty much suggested i was blinded to the truth ,when challenged on the royal commission into sex abuse they pointed to a case where they believed a victim they supposedly knew of in the jws was a liar ,so that's their case for the org -unbelievable.
Very classy job you did there wozza.
I think you left an impression they will continue to think about.
i feel an unfamiliar restlessness in my lower body.
too long have i been confined to my sickbed; my mind and heart coax me arise and gaze upon the world outside.
it is no longer a matter of fighting long-entrenched despair.
You are very welcome.
I really appreciate it when someone reminds me that we are so much more than a physical organism.
There is hope and yearning and love and so on. Just as essential for our humanity as arms and legs.
One of the struggles I have as I leave organized religion behind, is to address things that feed the soul and sprinkle the magic dust without being "religious" in an overt way.
One of the reasons (I feel) that religions are so pervasive in their appeal is because they at least attempt to address that spot in people. Of course they do loads of harm along the way...
that is what I love about your writing. You capture the humanity of being human.
i feel an unfamiliar restlessness in my lower body.
too long have i been confined to my sickbed; my mind and heart coax me arise and gaze upon the world outside.
it is no longer a matter of fighting long-entrenched despair.
This was a writing one feels rather than reads....
If ever anyone could use mere letters arranged in such a way that it feels like warm honey being poured over a soul, it is you CC .
Such a touching reminder of the transcendent power that is so much more than our physical body.
Thank you
interesting take on how to motivate inactive ones.... https://www.lds.org/youth/video/reaching-out-through-love?lang=eng.
it is interesting to compare and contrast witnesses and mormans....!.
The self comment accompanying the video describes it as a "lighthearted take" on the subject.
so that is the first part that doesnt fit the cut of the JW jib.
The second thing is it invites interaction and comments at the website.
what are some false reasoning's behind some of the wt rules?.
birthdays:.
why is it forbidden as a jw to celebrate birthdays?
Good ones mentioned above.
One I was thinking of I will call "The Meeting Code"
JWs are under enormous pressure to attend each and every meeting. Including the ones for field service.
You can make zero advancement unless you follow this rule.
But when the Org decided to do away with midweek book studies it was gone in a "poof".
Just like that, everyone got their Tuesdays back and were still a good Christian. How could that be? How scriptural was it in the first place?
What does that say about all the other mandatory meetings?
so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.
don't these people have a job to go to?
it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.
You poor sad misguided thing who believes lies on the internetz
(heavy sarcazm on purrpose)
GREAT job rebelfighter!
...actually believe they are chosen by god to go to heaven, as opposed to how many do it for attention seeking/presige reasons?.
i know we have nom way of really knowing.
however, your thoughts interest me..
DATA-DOG
I guess that makes me "off?
This part right here makes you sound like a sound nice person and not "off" at all DD.
I just figured that if the Bible was true, then Xians should partake. I never thought that I was better than anyone, in fact, I was pretty humbled.
I really cant imagine any of the "anointed" I knew saying that.
i don't see this posted elsewhere, and i don't have the links besides this facebook one.. but here is a 45-minute long bethel talk about the changes at bethel including addressing the hard feelings of people who were given the axe.
basically, everything must change.
we gave remaining bethelites saturday off to do our bidding in "the field" and we give bethelites over 70 an extra day a week off (if you can find any such bethelites).
Thanks for the cliff notes OTWO. Now I wont have to induce nausea and actually watch it.
I will just follow this thread and it will be better than watching!
i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.
it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.
there were six of us, now only four.
Im so sorry Lisa.
You take such good care with all of us here.
We all care.
...actually believe they are chosen by god to go to heaven, as opposed to how many do it for attention seeking/presige reasons?.
i know we have nom way of really knowing.
however, your thoughts interest me..
We had a C.O. whose wife was "annointed".
With her double pierced ears and tight leather skirts
yeah
uh huh
I kid you not.
She was an emotional basket case too.
I guess that is why no one said anything about her?
The Org seems to fear "emotional crazy" amongst the C.O.s wives and leave it alone.