a new video on jw org tv titled do not hold a grudge is presented by gb's oldest member gerrit losch.this is just another representation of the standard of talks prepared and given by the highest level of authority and position within the jw organization.
they desperately need help, not even their complete rebranding can save them from themselves.some of this gb member's gems about holding a grudge include -.
- what can lead to a grudge?
If you can stop holding a grudge talk to the person who has upset you or talk to a trusted friend. Don't talk to anyone else as it can cause divisions within the congregation or the family.
Explain exactly how talking to your friend of choice is different than talking to "anyone else"?
The whole idea that they can "allow" you one friend to talk to and order you not to talk to anyone else lest you cause division is ridiculous. It shows a poor understanding of human nature.
it was a shock despite us being divorced for over 40 years.
my son from that marriage phoned me with the news of sandra's death a couple of days ago, followed by my daughter.. sandra was one of 5 siblings.
the other 4 are still jw's.
Mrs Snuggles sounds like an amazing woman and Im glad you two have each other.
I am sorry for the loss you and your children have to go through and I am saddened that family members in this religion (any religion - but especially one who says it promotes love) are acting this way.
my best to you all.
well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
dubstepped
If she took pics of it on his computer that would probably be sufficient. That two witness rule gets pretty dodgy if conclusive proof is presented.
Excellent point Dub!
I should have read more carefully, the pictures makes a difference.
I guess the massive invasion of Pale Es privacy in all this is a moot point to the elders (and to the nosy Nellie sister in law).
had a great turn out today protesting against the baptist minister who praised the orlando massacre.
my best guess is there were around 1,200 of us there.
it was an entirely peaceful protest as we chanted "love conquers hate" and "we are orlando".
Very touching.
I saw this on the news and now I know someone who was actually there!
Thanks for sharing the pictures Coded.
Many things that people believe are ridiculous. People used to think that if a woman ate strawberries it could make a baby be born with a birthmark.
Ridiculous belief? Yes.
Ridicule the belief? Bad idea.
Why? For much the same reason as Londo mentioned above.
Another reason to show respect is because to not show it involves me judging the individuals who hold it.
It sounds good to say we wont/dont judge people, just beliefs but I find that not to be the way it works in real life.
At some point, if an individual chooses to stay with a belief deemed "wrong" the judging happens.
That is a slippery slope - judging another. It begins to effect who you are yourself and not in a good way.
well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
Pale E,
They dont have what they need for a judicial committee unless you want it.
She is only ONE witness to the alleged offense. They have to have two.
well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
To read what Pale Emperor wrote wouldnt this "person" have had to join?
i want a t-shirt.
something that says "religion is crap, i don't care which one".. i was thinking of adapting the "coexist" one to say "toxic" instead which is great because it removes 'science' but includes all the major world religions.. anyone else have any ideas?.
also a tag-line ... "whatever god you worship, he's a weirdigan".
I like the idea of using the classy line from "Imagine"
my story in a nutshell... .
scientist for a father; extremely mentally ill, 'annointed' mother.
was privy to and also suffered a lot of abuse.
I already like your sense of humor....watching people run from the vantage of a nice comfy sofa indeed! (Im in!)
I shall call you "undub" as I like that one and you gave me a choice. :>)
Welcome to the forum, Im glad you are here!
i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
I dont think anyone needs to leave, certainly not you David_Jay!
I think we either need to accept that
a) as a forum we are not capable of having conversations where there is some type of bridge between the two camps and just live with it
or
b) decide we really want (as a forum) to have those conversations and make the necessary adjustments to do so.
I love this place and have a wonderful time here and I am not an atheist at this point in time. I havent had enough fresh JW free air to know what I am yet. I am trying to figure that out.
