Posts by millie210

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They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

by pale.emperor in

"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

"all of our publications are open to everyone.

we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

millie210

Funny thing about that book...

many of the statements it makes are quotes from Wachtowers and KMs already in existence.

All pulled together in a resource manual.

Since the mere peon pubs have access to all the Watchtowers and KMs, what is the big secrecy deal?

I mean other than the obvious pecking order stuff?

I think it may have to do with the Elders School they attend where they are given information to write in the margins of their book, some of which gets rather detailed and somewhat strange.

It is a brilliant move though, that way if an elder acts on it, and a law suit or some type of complaint resulted, well...

its in the elders handwriting NOT the Societys!

Clever, no?

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A Question

by FedUpJW in

i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

millie210

FedUpJW,

That is pretty interesting that the cart is just gathering dust!

Here, the cart is in great demand. The way it is done locally, the cart is checked out (like a library book) and the form that is signed confers ALL liability connected to the cart to the person checking it out.

So if a person walking by the cart were to trip over it, break their leg and sue, the very unknowing brother or sister who checked it out might get a big surprise.

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"Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.

by oppostate in

or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....

millie210

He hits, he swings, knocks it out of the park!

( thanks Outlaw! )

That Henrietta Riley trust is an interesting piece of work.

Good solid research about the Orgs seamy involvement but I am wondering about TM himself.

Most families of that old money type have trust funds or stock shares that go to heirs on reaching a majority.

I am wondering if TM denounced his share in the family pot or still gets his money.

My main reason for wondering is much has been made (mostly by TM himself) of his two sons and daughters in laws staying with the Org and not leaving like most young people. Tony says it is due to him and of course, Jehovah.

If there are ANY financial strings between TM and his Morris familial connection that provides an alternative reason for why his sons may be so compliant with dear papa.

They stand to gain that as their inheritance just like daddy Tony did. If they got DFd and Dad disowned them it could cost them millions.

So IF there is still a viable financial connection between TM and the Morris business, that could explain a lot.

Next time he brags in a Watchtower about how to raise kids, maybe he should mention fear of losing access to Daddys money among his other bits of "parental wisdom".

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"Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.

by oppostate in

or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....

millie210

Has it ever been determined if there are financial links between Morris and his wealthy family?

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Rank & file are seeing the money-grubbing

by Zoos in

spoke with a fellow apostate from my own area.

she and i bailed out about the same time and kept in touch.. she used to do secular work with one of the local elders in his cleaning business until she got dfed.

this same elder was one of the more profound dickheads on my reinstatement committee, before i turned around two years later and daed.. business required her to contact the elder on behalf of an old client.

millie210

James Jack
WOW
I had to think on this and there is a trend toward less giving in our Hall(I'm the Account Servant).
Our Accounts went from $6000 a year ago and now around the $1000 mark. One Elder(he is the biggest contributor) asked me any trends I have noticed. I told him" Everyone pays by check and yet only 2 Elders out of 7, and 2 MS's out of 6 and 1 Pioneer out of 14 give on a regular basis. Most of them I have never seen a check from them in 3 years! He paused and said:" The example of those taking the lead shows by the results, and I don't know how to fix it".

He sounds like an elder with thinking ability and a business sense. Too bad he is locked in to an administrative situation in the Org where his hands are tied to use any autonomous common sense or business acumen.

A drop from 6 to 1 is pretty significant.

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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

by bohm in

jw
friends

this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

millie210

nowwhat?
Anything earth shattering would be announced at the annual meeting

So true...that is where we learned about tight pants and colored socks...

Does anyone remember any announcement of any import ever being delivered at a C.A.?

Also, isnt the annual meeting coming up in the fall?

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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

by bohm in

jw
friends

this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

millie210

DJS
If this is true:
The DarkLords have always had a fatal attraction to the pope. My guess is they are going to emulate his recent apology, for child abuse they enabled. I second Red pill's motion.

So true and well phrased about the Pope attraction/fascination.

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Male Prostitutes in demand during RNC convention

by Coded Logic in

among those making cleveland extra gay this week are male prostitutes who are in high demand among older, allegedly heterosexual male republican delegates.. the new york post reports: .

i’ve seen 10 clients so far,” one male escort said.. “most of them were first-timers.

you could tell they were nervous, but once they became more comfortable, they seemed to be having a good time.”.

millie210

Okay I get it now, thanks Lisa!

I hadnt thought about the angle of the hiding what you are...

that makes sense.

I am too fresh out of the "~~JWs are neutral in politics~~" lifetime of thinking (which isnt true but does make you a late bloomer - thats me) to understand all the nuances but I am seeing that the press does a lot to shape how people interpret what the candidates do or dont do.

This is actually the first time I have ever followed an election with any interest in my life. Its the first time I have given myself permission to do so without feeling guilty as a JW.

My one sibling who is not a JW (and who is a gay who votes democrat) is delighted that I actually am out of the JW foggy haze and aware anything is going on!

Does this make this year my "coming out" ? lol

Definitely a heck of an election year!

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What novels have you been reading recently? Recommend any?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've always been a bit of a reader - but only reading about topics i find interesting, e.g.

natural history, dinosaurs, etc.. recently i've started to select, buy and read novels.. this year i've bought and read frankenstein (mary shelly), dracula (bram stoker), the hound of the baskervilles (a. conan doyle), 'salem's lot (stephen king), jurassic park (michael crichton) and the firm (john grisham).. i have an inclination towards horrors and thrillers.. what fiction have you been reading?.

could you recommend anything?.

millie210

I recently finished "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy.

Michael Crichton has several good books as does Stephan King.

Have you read any Dean Koontz? If you like King, you may like him.

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Male Prostitutes in demand during RNC convention

by Coded Logic in

among those making cleveland extra gay this week are male prostitutes who are in high demand among older, allegedly heterosexual male republican delegates.. the new york post reports: .

i’ve seen 10 clients so far,” one male escort said.. “most of them were first-timers.

you could tell they were nervous, but once they became more comfortable, they seemed to be having a good time.”.

millie210

I dont see the point here.

Traveling and wanting to walk on the wild side (the guy in the article mentioned "first timers") or just seeking male on male sex period, is now a political party thing?

So am I supposed to leave this article thinking Dems dont do this?